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How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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I think it's normal to distinguish imagined pictures from real ones. If you can't, that's schizophrenia.

Or sometimes, critical thinking. ;

If your mind is lying to you, there is no amount of critical thinking that can save you in the long run.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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A bit OT: I'm curious what, if anything, people here see when their eyes are closed while falling asleep. I usually see one of the following: 1. Just the brown/black of my eyelids, with some slight variations in darkness. 2. A blob of white light. It looks a lot like what you'd see if you were in a dark room with a sink full of water that is draining, and there was a drop of some glowing dye in the water which is cir…

I've seen none of those things. In fact, I never "see" anything[0] in my mind. I just feel the concept of it without actually seeing a visual image of the thing.

[0] except several times while I was in prison and had a lot of time on my hands to daydream -- I randomly conjured up what I would consider "hyper-real" images in my mind for a few seconds each.. a cat, an apple, a wheel spinning down a beach with a ship in the distance. I say "hyper-real" because they were far more stunning than anything I have seen through my eyes. Like my eyes are SD video and this was 8K HDR 3D. I've never been able to recreate this or do it on demand.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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So, wait, are people normally actually seeing images, with their eyes, when they imagine what something looks like? Like, the brown-blackness of the back of your eyelids gets replaced with something you actually see, like it's projected there? I can imagine what something looks like, and I guess I sort of 'see' it, but closing my eyes doesn't make it any more real. It doesn't seem to involve the eyes or any part of t…

If I remember correctly, aphantasia is inability to visualise images, objects or memories in the mind, and this seems to be what the author actually refers to. The alternative, to actually perceive imagery with the eye that isn't there is usually called hallucination. The article doesn't get at this difference and seems to be based on Youtube videos about aphantasia. If you've ever had a dream with vivid first person…

I've suffered Hypnagogia several times in my life where I have woken up and can see giant spiders running around my bedroom. I hurt myself once leaping from standing on my bed, over the spiders, to my door so I could switch the light on and attack them. Of course, when the light came on and I turned around the spiders were not there. My brain, not understanding where the "spiders" had gone convinced me that they had merely scurried under the furniture to hide, so I spent another couple of minutes trying to find them before I realized I had been punked by my own brain.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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This one is curious;

>Q. If I use a voice recorder, do I have to listen back to what I’ve said? No. I’m not going to pretend that I understand why but it seems that your mind just needs to know what the words are being recorded. You can, of course, listen to the recordings if you want to. Personally, I didn’t bother.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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I hate the writing style. This is the kind of text you normally see from scam artists: "this cool techinque that I'm going to tell you about", "here's a personal story/testimonial", "soon I'll tell you how I did it", "watch this video if you want to learn more", and there's usually also a "buy my course if you really want to learn about it".

This is not how one shares knowledge, this is how one sells snake oil.

Thus, by default all information shared here should be considered bogus. Every claim needs to be verified (multiple hours of research). As such, I'd rathet disregard the article completely and use actual research on aphantasia as a starting point to learn about it instead.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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> I can rotate a die in my minds eye without actually seeing it. It's hard to explain. I think I'm the same. It's as if I can imagine a geometry, but it doesn't have any texture or colour. It's not black, not grey, not brown... It's a shape in its pure form, maybe like a wireframe, without a physical manifestation. However, I can imagine music and actually hear it. I had this a couple of times where I "replay" a song…

That sounds a lot like me as well. I have a very hard time getting an actual realistic picture, with color and detail, in my head. At most its a faint and hazy thing. And while I don't have face-blindness - I recognize people from their faces easily - picturing the faces of even close friends and family members in my head is very hard, and mostly comes down to a few half-remembered features, tied to words. But a geom…

Interesting. I'm the same. I can't visualize anything in my head, but I can play back songs as perfect audio with the lyrics and all the music. I'm playing Moby in my head right now. But, like you, I often have to go find the music to physically listen to in order to end the earworm.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Yes. I am like you in that I cannot actually see anything visual in my minds eye but I can still 'visualise' it. For example, I can rotate a die in my minds eye without actually seeing it. It's hard to explain. It was a revelation when I found out that most people can actually see things visually in their minds eye. A friend of mine can actually place imagined objects into their field of view, like AR.

> I can rotate a die in my minds eye without actually seeing it. It's hard to explain. I think I'm the same. It's as if I can imagine a geometry, but it doesn't have any texture or colour. It's not black, not grey, not brown... It's a shape in its pure form, maybe like a wireframe, without a physical manifestation. However, I can imagine music and actually hear it. I had this a couple of times where I "replay" a song…

I think you are slightly to the aphantasia side of a spectrum. I can do the same as you but with colors.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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post #88

A bit OT: I'm curious what, if anything, people here see when their eyes are closed while falling asleep. I usually see one of the following: 1. Just the brown/black of my eyelids, with some slight variations in darkness. 2. A blob of white light. It looks a lot like what you'd see if you were in a dark room with a sink full of water that is draining, and there was a drop of some glowing dye in the water which is cir…

> 3. Gears, pistons, linkages, pulleys, wheels, etc forming elaborate moving mechanisms...

This is a really interesting phenomenon. Elaborate machinescapes are present in a lot of psychedelic closed eye visuals. Its unusual because we typically don't have a lot of interaction with these things, yet there's this shared experience. I wonder if the experiences we have had seeing complex machinery in real life have embedded some primal response to them.

I commonly see blobs of light, but a particularly frequent recurring visualization is circus imagery. If I'm listening to music I seem to be more prone to seeing something like cardboard cutouts of the Beatles in their Sgt Pepper outfits sort of bouncing up and down moving off to the side.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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I have seen lines of code projected vividly like this. Several years ago a Facebook recruiter invited me to interview with them. It mostly went well, except I bombed the leetcode algorithm quiz. The next day, as I expected, they sent me a polite note thanking me for interviewing but they would be moving on with other candidates. The morning after that, I woke up and before I opened my eyes I saw the complete solution…

I have, in more than one occasion, gone to sleep with a problem in mind and woke up with a solution, but it is more of a conceptual thing. To actually see the lines of code, if true, is wild.

The story is indeed true, in every detail. And yes, it was a wild experience.

I'd never had this happen before, nor since. I wish it were a skill I could develop and cultivate!

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