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iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#91

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

I'm with you. Still on my iPhone 11 (first iPhone I ever bought after years of running my previous Samsung phone into the ground) and zero inclination to upgrade. My wife has the same phone and will iPhone talk about her mom's new Samsung phone takes nicer pictures but like...that's it? Pictures look slightly better - to be fair she's an amateur photographer so she sees things that are far less consquential to me so I see where she's coming from - but not brand-new-$1200 device better.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#92

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

There's one way to stop it: online culture must shift toward blaming early adopters for not waiting, instead of blaming companies for bad QA. TotalBiscuit pushed that for game preorders, and it worked, preorders declined. Change always starts from below, and idle BigCorp criticism has no effect if people still give their money blindly.

They are the same thing? If a majority refuses to buy new products due to bad QA it does effectively blame the company for bad QA

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#93

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

> Not much of anything has changed in the last 6. Not really. It's still basically the iPhone X with a couple of screen size options. Yeah the chips are faster on paper, and the photos have gone from really good to better, but it's a really incremental product these days

These kind of comments seem to be low effort because they don't really show an insight into what has changed. Of course, if you compare an iPhone from one year to the previous year, it may seem minor. But claiming confidently that not much has changed in six years is hyperbole. The improvements in camera, screen brightness, colors and many others strongly disagree with such claims.

> A used iPhone 13 Pro Max in great condition is about $450 these days where I a.m.

Of course, this could be a great alternative to buying a new phone since it's only two generations behind and is also a Pro model. It will do well for some more years (software wise) and probably need a battery replacement around that same time (depending on how it's been used till now).

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#95
The jellyroll li-ion batteries invented by Sony, perfected by U.S. firms, and their IP then stolen and maximized by Chinese firms (namely CATL), are an inelegant, imperfect, and in many cases fundamentally dangerous design. And those companies have no route to improving thermal handling. It needs to change.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Previously, Apple has used stainless steel for its high-end phones. I saw that too. I thought Apple mainly used aluminium?

Well, it's not Thermal Conductivity then. I just looked it up. Stainless Steel 15 W/m-K Titanium 17 W/m-K Aluminum 210 W/m-K Effectively, Stainless Steel & Titanium have the same thermal conductivity. https://www.hardrok.com.au/thermal-activity-in-stainless-ste... .

The issue here is users complaining that the phones get too hot to handle, which immediately eliminated conductivity. A thermal conductivity problem would've looked like the phone overheating without the outside getting too hot to handle. (picture the circuit board inside a thermos)

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #89

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

If you've got the cash buy the Merc, etc etc Iphone. Otherwise, spend $300 on a really solid android phone and then flex on being money smart.

Review the EOL spans between apple and android though. Apple is still releasing security updates for the 5S, a 10 year old handset.

Android devices average 3-4 years before complete end of support. Maybe HN folks will go for alternate firmware, but I'm talking about manufacturer firmware for apples to apples comparison.

That $300 increases to $600+ vs holding on to a ~$500 apple handset when looking at a 5+ years timeframe.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#98

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

This is what I've been wanting to do, but I've found the used iPhone prices to be frustratingly high.

Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places, but I can't even find a base iPhone 13 for less than ~$550. Does it really make sense to buy a 2 year old model for 30% less than the brand new version? Sure, there haven't been many meaningful improvements in the past two years, but its still two fewer years of software support.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you've ever tried to play a game on the iPhone/doing something else CPU/GPU heavy while outside in the sun on a hot day good excuse to put down the phone and enjoy the sun :)

Some of us live in places where there is more sunny & hot days than not, and your advice feels geared towards people who don't live such places ;)

I'll add that in some places sunny and hot days are sometimes better spent indoors with an aircon if possible.

Excessive heat, especially in humid regions can be daunting.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#100

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

>> What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones?

How else am I supposed to show the shallowness of my existence

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