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Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

#91

You realize OS innovation has ground to a halt when the first feature advertised in a new version is screen savers

Not really. Consumer behavior is not what technical people expect it to be. The main reason people update their phone OS is for new emoji. People love this stuff.

>The main reason people update their phone OS is for new emoji

I can't avoid the anecdata game, so: what generation are you? I don't know a single person who would update their phone for a new emoji.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

#92

I still don't understand why Apple is so bent on coupling application updates together with OS updates. I just want the new changes to Safari and Notes while I don't care about the other changes, why not have Safari be a normal application downloaded from the App Store, like the rest of us pleebs have to do when publishing apps?

I have a company-provided mac, I don't have an App Store account as it requires a phone number (and I'm not going to use my personal phone number to register it, it is not even allowed by policy) so I'm not going to update any app via the store

Well, then this doesn't really affect you as you don't have a choice regarding updates at all :)

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

#94

Update: simscitizen has confirmed below that 1Password 7 still works in Sonoma. This will be the first macOS upgrade I won’t be doing for a while. I’d like to try it out, but I need to figure out how to migrate off of 1Password 7 (standalone) first or to make sure it still works with Sonoma. (Edit: I'm expecting that 1Password 7 will break with the new OS and make me convert to their subscription product.)

Does this not work well with 1Password?

I've been using 1Password on the Sonoma public betas and have not had any problems.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

#95

You realize OS innovation has ground to a halt when the first feature advertised in a new version is screen savers

macOS has felt “feature complete” to me for years now. There is nothing I really want from an OS. I only upgrade for the security benefits and so I can keep all my systems on the same release, since new systems can’t be downgraded. I actually appreciate not doing relentless “innovation” just for the sake of doing it. Microsoft does this by slapping new UIs on top of old every damn release. They often don’t even remov…

>macOS has felt “feature complete” to me for years now. >Microsoft does this by slapping new UIs on top of old every damn release

This OS upgrade looks like it's mostly slapping new UIs on top of old, so I'm not sure this is "doing it right".

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

#96
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Please, for the love of god, add native window snapping.

> Please, for the love of god, add native window snapping. macOS has had built-in “window snapping” since 2015. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204948 And if/when you need more advanced window management, there’s a plethora of free and paid options.

That is not remotely as powerful as actual window snapping and feels more like what a tablet OS would need rather than a desktop OS.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

#97

You realize OS innovation has ground to a halt when the first feature advertised in a new version is screen savers

Not really. Consumer behavior is not what technical people expect it to be. The main reason people update their phone OS is for new emoji. People love this stuff.

Anecdata, but I feel most people don’t want to upgrade the software at all regardless of the features.. :p

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

#98
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does this upgrade require migrating off 1Password?

Updated to clarify. My expectation is that 1Password 7 won’t work on Sonoma. In my experience, AgileBits requires an upgrade for new versions of macOS. IIUC, 1Password 7 is also the last version that you can buy outright rather than paying for by subscription.

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Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Updated to clarify. My expectation is that 1Password 7 won’t work on Sonoma. In my experience, AgileBits requires an upgrade for new versions of macOS. IIUC, 1Password 7 is also the last version that you can buy outright rather than paying for by subscription.

1Password 7 works fine for me on Sonoma.

Thanks! Updated, and sorry for the false alarm. (But I have been burned in the past.)

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

#100
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