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Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by tyingq »

RajT88 wrote: post #18

Just FYI - you can replace your head unit even on newer cars. There's a bustling aftermarket industry for this kind of stuff: https://www.belsee.com/android-car-radio/hyundai-radio.html This way - your data gets abused by the Chinese government instead of Hyundai! (I kid, sort of, but these head units let you exert more control over your car, as they often ship rooted, or can be rooted) If you DIY install the head un…

It's tricky for some cars. Things like non-standard sizes for the opening. Important functionality baked into the head unit (Volvo, for example, has paths to configure some safety options, trip/mpg display, etc). Integration for steering wheel controls, rear displays, backup cameras. And more that I'm missing off the top of my head.

For some vehicles, some of the above have options to tie in with a 3rd party setup, others don't.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by plagiarist »

tomxor wrote: post #29
RajT88 wrote: post #18

Just FYI - you can replace your head unit even on newer cars. There's a bustling aftermarket industry for this kind of stuff: https://www.belsee.com/android-car-radio/hyundai-radio.html This way - your data gets abused by the Chinese government instead of Hyundai! (I kid, sort of, but these head units let you exert more control over your car, as they often ship rooted, or can be rooted) If you DIY install the head un…

I'd pay to just not have one, but I'm not even sure that's possible any more. I'm really not looking forward to when I'm forced to buy a new car - few things make me more mad than smartphone tech with universally slow and terrible UX, duck-taped onto machines, let alone dangerous machines.

In previous discussions about how shitty touchscreen car interfaces are, people have been mentioning that new cars must provide a backup camera. I'd like to have just the camera, but why would manufacturers stop there when they can ship spyware as well? The screen is the expensive part.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by PopAlongKid »

avar wrote: post #23
_moof wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend works in environmental science and his advice when it comes to cars and climate is to keep your car for as long as possible, regardless of gas vs. electric. Obviously YMMV but generally speaking the emissions "cost" of manufacturing and delivering the car in the first place is huge, and the way the numbers work out, it's better to amortize that over as long a time as you can than it is to frequently buy a re…

Your friend may understand environmental science, but clearly not economics. If you don't keep your car you'll sell it. You won't be moving the needle on how long it'll take to amortize that initial manufacturing cost, it'll just happen with someone else driving it. Likewise if you don't buy a new car someone else will, you're not going to move the needle on the overall supply. I don't recommend buying new cars, but…

You appear to be making an unfounded assumption that regardless of how many owners it has, any given vehicle will remain on the road the exact same number of years.

If an owner decides to keep and maintain their car longer than they would have in the past, that car will stay out of the junkyard longer and therefore reduce the need to produce new cars. They will use some of the money they would have spent on a new car to keep the old one going longer, and still pocket the rest of it as savings.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by vel0city »

lunias wrote: post #61

I cannot believe the amount of screens that have been allowed into cars. Touchscreens that beckon not only for your attention, but also your interaction are somehow fine to just put wherever in the car. It's illegal to use my phone for non hands-free calls while driving (technically, but it's not even remotely enforced) but it's okay to use my television-sized device connected to my phone because it's integrated into…

> Imagine being able to both see the road AND quickly sketch out an idea with a co-worker on the windshield during your commute

This is quite a disingenuous take on the screens in a car though. They usually only allow limited interactions while the vehicle is in motion, so that example of sketching out an idea with a coworker already isn't supposed to be happening with the current systems while the vehicle is in motion.

My passenger can't type something while the vehicle is moving, and if they scroll through lists too fast it'll go into a timeout mode for a few seconds because it assumes the driver is paying too much attention to the screen. Coupled with driver attention tracking systems on current Euro cars (and it sounds like future US cars as well) it can really enforce that a driver doesn't pay too much attention directly to the screen or other things in the car.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by jjoonathan »

boatsie wrote: post #78
samtho wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of legislating pop over messages to happen (looking at cookie messages), we just need to legislate these trash interruptions away. I didn’t begin using the device I purchased to be interrupted by something that had literally no bearing on my life, I cannot effectively use the device if I decline, and the existence of such can cause harm if I am working with something sensitive.

on that note, is anyone ever voluntarily, knowingly clicking the “accept all” other than to dismiss these? Like why not just legislate that you can’t do the kind of tracking they are asking because I’m pretty sure literally nobody wants it…

That's exactly what they did. The cookie dialogs are almost all illegal. Enforcement is MIA.

The industry collectively decided to play "they can't catch us all" because the alternative was giving up the ad-driven business model and they didn't want to do that. Unfortunately, it looks like they are getting away with it.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by dylan604 »

petercooper wrote: post #40

This reminds me of a problem I have with most hardware and software: being hassled about things like updates or T&Cs when you start to use them rather than after you have used them. Ask me to do firmware updates when I try to shut a device down, not when I turn it on. Ask me to update some software when I close a document, not when I launch it to do some work. All that happens is I skip the intrusion to carry on with…

I don't mind the at the start of vs in the middle of. After is never going to happen as you just force quit the app to ignore it if it is prevent quit.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by dizhn »

mnahkies wrote: post #77
LAC-Tech wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously. I have zero use for a touch screen in a car. Maps? When I drive I look at... the road. If I need directions, google maps can tell me to turn left etc by voice commands.

Eh I'm anti touch screen controls, but as a motorcyclist driving in a foreign country relying on voice directions I need the visual input too. There's a big difference between audio only directions for a spaghetti junction and being able to glance at the visual and combine that with the audio. You take your eyes off the road all the time doing head checks (blind spot checks), so long as you're not staring at the map…

Sounds like google maps, am i right? Almost any other navigation product will do a combination of zooming in and displaying actual road signs with clearly marked intersections etc. Maps is useless without also turning on voice.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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Post by pradn »

mrtksn wrote: post #83

This is an obvious no-no but these popups create other issues too. My Grandma lives in a small town in Eastern Europe and I bought her a Samsung Tablet to use with Skype so we can talk to her without paying ridiculous international rates(her house had 100mbps internet but no landline for phone, only GSM which was expensive to call). Anyway, at some point Skype and later Samsung decided that we can't call grandma with…

> I Give her my old iPhone 7 and use FaceTime now, with auto answer setting turned on in the accessibility.

I didn't know this feature existed. Quite thoughtful!

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