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Re: 9/11 in Realtime

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There are so many incredible stories of heroism from this day, but, I will highlight that of Rick Rescorla. [1] After 1993, before 9/11: > Feeling that the authorities lost legitimacy after they failed to respond to his 1990 warnings, he concluded that employees of Morgan Stanley, which was the largest tenant in the World Trade Center, could not rely on first responders in an emergency and needed to empower themselve…

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Re: 9/11 in Realtime

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This stuff is so difficult for me to watch again, I was a senior in HS. Reading IRC logs from back then is also really interesting. And Nanog had a really interesting slideshow/powerpoint deep dive on the infrastructure outages that occurred. And of course the SomethingAwful thread that's been posted before. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7990991 RE: this specific site.. interesting UX/UI choice. I was hoping I…

I was a sophomore in college, it was strange because people didn't have smart phones and many people didn't have cell phones. I remember class starting and a student said, very calmly after receiving a text message about, "oh, that's weird it says an airplane in the world trade center". We all assumed it was just a small private Cessna plane that must of accidentally bumped into the one of the towers, and then class began as usual.

My roommates and I spend the next week completely glued to the television. Which is why this interface is particularly great for capturing that feeling, but it is tough to rewatch.

Re: 9/11 in Realtime

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That's incredible! What an amazing project. The classic Macintosh desktop is also very well done. Does anyone know the source code for the desktop used? I found the projects in the "About" open source notices section of the desktop. It uses: - https://github.com/robbiebyrd/platinum which itself is based on: - https://github.com/npjg/classic.css - https://github.com/ticky/classic-scrollbars for the scroll-bars

> The classic Macintosh desktop is also very well done Two things, in my opinion: trying to be whimsical and "fun" for such a grave topic is disrespectful, and I don't understand what value appropriating Apple's logo and the "finder face" in the corner add to the 9/11 retrospective experience So, fine, maybe I'm just not happy-go-lucky enough to appreciate why this needs to be a classic Macintosh theme, but I am 100%…

IMO this doesn’t seem disrespectful, more like an attempt at authenticity. For those who used computers at that time, it will remind them of what it was like, and for younger people, it helps communicate the era (before you were born, but post-GUI) that 9/11 happened in.

Re: 9/11 in Realtime

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I was working in the airline industry when this happened. My girlfriend (now wife) and I had just started on the way into work, we signaled each other over to the side of the road, and talked for a few moments... and I headed in to work. I was in shock for weeks. I was ontop of the towers but 2 months before that, and possibly one of the best pictures of the two of us was taken there. ... I've been there. I know that…

They encouraged us to give away our freedoms for the illusion of safety.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sun coming up in the morning enables plans to generate solar power, but the sun doesn't require our intervention.

So the planes hitting the towers were as natural as the sun rising in the morning? What?

Someone suggested that Americans got angry after 9/11 because of propaganda. I'm saying they got angry because that happens naturally when your country is attacked.

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post #91

There are so many incredible stories of heroism from this day, but, I will highlight that of Rick Rescorla. [1] After 1993, before 9/11: > Feeling that the authorities lost legitimacy after they failed to respond to his 1990 warnings, he concluded that employees of Morgan Stanley, which was the largest tenant in the World Trade Center, could not rely on first responders in an emergency and needed to empower themselve…

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If you want to get a handle on how the War on Terror started and how everybody felt about it, I highly recommend listening to some of the live radio shows from that morning, such as the Howard Stern show. You look back now and question how we could've let it get so out of hand, but watching people react to it in real time takes you right back to the emotions it triggered. I don't think I've ever felt that degree of c…

I remember the feeling extremely clearly. And I still remember that feeling extending to the beginning of the war in Afghanistan, which I thought seemed justified and right. But I just as clearly remember how confused, frustrated, and just so disillusioned with the wisdom of my elders (I was still a teenager at this time) I felt when they were all so gung ho about invading Iraq, which clearly at the time had absolute…

I encourage people to read about Project for the New American Century (PNAC). 9/11 gave PNAC and the neoconservatives the optimal opportunity to implement their stated objectives.

Re: 9/11 in Realtime

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There are so many incredible stories of heroism from this day, but, I will highlight that of Rick Rescorla. [1] After 1993, before 9/11: > Feeling that the authorities lost legitimacy after they failed to respond to his 1990 warnings, he concluded that employees of Morgan Stanley, which was the largest tenant in the World Trade Center, could not rely on first responders in an emergency and needed to empower themselve…

Thank you for that story. Do you know of a book that covers the event from this angle? I'm totally tapped out on the usual treatment of the event focused on geopolitics before and after it, but I would like to read in long form about the actions of the actual people there and nearby that day.

I'm not immediately aware of a solid consolidated book on this regard, it's a bit scattered to my knowledge over many journalistic articles and oral histories. If anyone else has a recommendation I am interested as well.

Anyhow, a good place to start on researching this topic might be the 9/11 Tribute Memorial and Museum's YouTube channel where they have some clips from survivor accounts[1], many of these individuals you can google their names and find articles from the time period, for example Stanley Praimnath and Brian Clark. [2] The 9/11 Museum also holds many more oral histories, and transcripts. [3] One account that sticks with me is from a Reddit user that fled lower Manhattan on an abandoned bicycle. [4] There are similar stories in the comments of that post.

I do actually have a book recommendation I have read but it's more about what happened in the months after the events of 9/11: "American Ground: Unbuilding the World Trade Center" [5]

[1] https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqCjsbFgQNH7awCj8Q-PJa9Kb...

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20070827041945/http://archives.c...

[3] https://www.911memorial.org/learn/resources/oral-histories

[4] https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/zpxyv/i_submit_this_e...

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Ground

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