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Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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No that is not what I mean, I don't consider "being conservative" or donating money to any candidate to be controversial. For Palmer Luckey I'm referring to him personally holding a multi-million-dollar fundraiser for Donald Trump, and for Peter Thiel I'm referring to his opposition to democracy and women and poor people voting, among other things.

Running a fundraiser for Trump is not controversial even probably to plenty of liberals, and if you are referring to Thiel's 2009 essay, that is a very uncharitable and biased summary of what he is saying.

It is an incredibly straightforward reading of what he wrote. "Most importantly, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." He was 42 years old when he wrote that.

He is welcome to apologize or publicly state that he no longer believes this, and he has done that for other past controversial statements. Since he has not done so, we should conclude that he still holds this belief and acts accordingly.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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I can see how people empathize with that but on the flip side I've known plenty of immigrants who went through the process the right way, waited months or years, gone through naturalization process and did the same to get get their families here. They, along with others still in line feel cheated by the people entering illegally / abusing the asylum claim systems. If you're escaping a bad situation in a central or so…

That's just hazing bullshit, "I went through this misery so you must, too!". You fix it by making the legal route less awful, not by intentionally inflicting even more suffering.

Are you a US citizen making this statement? If you are, then you don’t know the scale of social spending that you will be hit with if that legal route for that comes to pass.

Either way, I can’t see any progress on immigration reform. It’s not happening, unless the flow at the border stops or reduces significantly.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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If you want the law to reflect the economic reality, by all means engage with your local politicians. I know people with a tree farm business in Texas who only hire illegals because every single citizen they've tried to hire cut their pinky off the second week on the job and filed for disability. I don't disagree with your argument one bit but illegal is illegal. If somebody is going to break our laws to come here wh…

Oh yeah, point is "legal ain't cheap". Or maybe even moreso that it might ultimately hurt per-capita output and GDP more than just the apparent cost of immigrant labor value provided.

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Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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I wonder where that anti-military sentiment in U.S. tech stems from? At least in former Soviet bloc, we view your military in quite a positive light. Well, for sure in a more positive light than armies of competing 'superpowers'.

> I wonder where that anti-military sentiment in U.S. tech stems from? At least in former Soviet bloc, we view your military in quite a positive light. Well, for sure in a more positive light than armies of competing 'superpowers'.

I'm not American, and to me it just seems like a very vocal minority is doing a lot of the talking on behalf of everyone else.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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> Getting some goodwill of non-paying users I think you'll find they'll loose goodwill from some other non-paying folks. There are many people who code and use this technology who are pro-military. They may not speak up in the same circles as those who are against this but they exist. I'm only pointing this out to showcase the market is more diverse than people often realize.

> There are many people who code and use this technology who are pro-military But are they pro-US military or they might be pro-other countries military?

Large defense contractors are almost never exclusive to one country. For instance, the F35 is being procured by 17 different NATO and non-NATO countries. Similarly, Anduril has a number of European customers.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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also there is a silent majority, who does not have a special stance on lots of topics, just thinks like live and let live, and these kind of signalling are always a bad news for them (regardless of anti- or pro-something), as these useless drama-acts signal further polarization of the world, which often signal that some political takeover has happened in organizations which are not inherently political. This often si…

Yeah, political statement and stances taken in venues/spaces that are not appropriate are not good IMO. We need less of that.

Accepting sponsorship money from a company that designs and manufactures killing machines is a political statement, though. It is impossible to avoid political stances and live in the real world.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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A key aspect is that we discovered very late that TU Dresden has their own policies against military association that we weren't aware of. We would have had to fill in ton of paperwork, and potentially lose the place. This is what I tried to communicate to Anduril via email but it must have been lost in translation.

extremely disappointing that y’all needed the venue to impose this decision. as said by a friend this morning: > i, personally, would not accept money from the company actively militarizing the southern US border but that's just me

> as said by a friend this morning:

> > i, personally, would not accept money from the company actively militarizing the southern US border but that's just me

Anduril is not "militarizing" the southern border. They're adding observation stations (funded by the Biden administration mind you) so that who is crossing the border illegally is known. There's no weapons on these things or something.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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I wonder where that anti-military sentiment in U.S. tech stems from? At least in former Soviet bloc, we view your military in quite a positive light. Well, for sure in a more positive light than armies of competing 'superpowers'.

It's not anti-military, it's anti military suppliers who won't sell to civilians, even when there is no legal restriction preventing it.

H&K, Anduril, Boston Dynamics, are just a few examples of companies who have entire product lines inaccessible to me, a private citizen who is not military, LEO, or a contractor of either.

Anduril, in particular, rubs me the wrong way because Palmer Luckey talks a big game about being pro-liberty, but his company will only sell to the pigs.

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