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“X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

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Re: “X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

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post #62

How did we get to this place that so much of our media landscape was centralized within one failing company on Market Street in San Francisco?

I have long held that Twitter should have been bought by a consortium of media companies and run as a market utility. It’s been the media internet’s comment section for long enough that the BBC, MSNBC, Sinclair and even OANN ought to have understood the value of sharing it.

Re: “X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not what the parent comment was referring to. Senior execs had golden parachutes they were due if they were terminated.

We’re not even talking about golden parachutes. Literally every employee had a severance package specified and agreed to in the sales contract. Musk straight up violated the agreement the first week. The amount is negligible to the world’s richest man. He just violated it because he could. http://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/elon-musk-...

I was referring to the GP argument that was specifically asking about exec payouts, not the broader point of the article that Musk is just stiffing these people just because he can.

Re: “X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

#93
post #59

Anybody who still uses X (formerly Twitter) is supporting their behavior

Using X/Twitter to catch up and interact with the numerous friends, artists, and other communities there doesn't mean you support wage theft and withholding severance. It's hard to break away from such a populated platform, especially if most of the people you care about go to different platforms or don't share the same motivation to move.

I imagine GP is not only using 'support' to mean 'condone'; GP is using 'support' in its more literal sense, i.e. the users of the platform provide the means for the behaviour to continue by funding the company.

Re: “X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

#94

Meta question: Does anyone know why negative Twitter/X stories tend to drop off the front page so quickly. It is now ranked 65 despite having a lot of votes in such a short time period. Just wondering if it's because it is heavily flagged or if the mods are intervening like they have in the past ?

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Re: “X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

#95
post #59

Anybody who still uses X (formerly Twitter) is supporting their behavior

The world is shaded in more than black and white.

This line is a low-effort, cliché dismissal that does not engage the statement in a meaningful way.

Re: “X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

#96
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We don't have debtors prisons. No one's suggesting such. We have plenty of disputed behavior and harms that are within the purview of civil courts, and then more egregious versions that are crimes. IMO, withholding significant pay that you have the ability to pay and is unambiguously contractually owed causes pretty serious harm, and society has strong reasons to criminalize this conduct. Accepting services from so…

Exactly: we already have plenty of areas where a civil case can turn into a criminal one like fraud (just ask Elizabeth Holmes). Saying "we'll pay you severance" with 0 intention to do so sure sounds like fraud to me.

Wage theft and fraud are crimes that state attorneys general do prosecute.

https://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/attorney-general-f...

Re: “X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

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Meta question: Does anyone know why negative Twitter/X stories tend to drop off the front page so quickly. It is now ranked 65 despite having a lot of votes in such a short time period. Just wondering if it's because it is heavily flagged or if the mods are intervening like they have in the past ?

It went from top of page 1 to page 3 by the time I came back to read the comments (less than an hour later). It's definitely someone playing games.

Re: “X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't have debtors prisons. While there are specific cases like this where some jail time would seem just, overall it's a negative for society. It's a civil matter for a reason. I do think such cases should rip the corporate veil to shreds though, and the billionaires would have to pay up.

> We don't have debtors prisons. No one's suggesting such. We have plenty of disputed behavior and harms that are within the purview of civil courts, and then more egregious versions that are crimes. IMO, withholding significant pay that you have the ability to pay and is unambiguously contractually owed causes pretty serious harm, and society has strong reasons to criminalize this conduct. Accepting services from so…

Severance is typically not "unambiguously contractually owed." The fact that many here would want company executives imprisoned for not offering goodwill boggles my mind.

Re: “X” Didn’t Pay Severance. Now It’s Facing 2,200 Cases – and Big Fees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't have debtors prisons. While there are specific cases like this where some jail time would seem just, overall it's a negative for society. It's a civil matter for a reason. I do think such cases should rip the corporate veil to shreds though, and the billionaires would have to pay up.

> overall it's a negative for society I would disagree. We shouldn't allow criminal behaviour to be tolerated just because it's white collar. And the whole point of laws is to protect the vulnerable in our society which definitely includes the innocent employees who are being harmed for doing nothing other than working for Twitter/X.

How is it criminal behavior to not offer severance, which 99% of companies don't offer? Not offering severance has nothing to do with criminal behavior. If so, 99% of small businesses owners would be imprisoned in your world.
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