I've always used Windows (not exclusively) but i always got along well with it.
If they continue this behaviour or putting pop-ups on my Desktop, I would switch to an alternative.
Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
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Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#92I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…
Why not Linux (depending on your line of work). Wider hardware choice, easier to upgrade, and no corporate oversight. Doesn't cover all use cases but it's a good option these days.
I do all my deployment to Linux Servers, but I want my main Desktop to just work and plan on sticking to the primary OS the hardware was built for. Don't need broad hardware support, it just needs to support M3 hardware when it comes out. I'm also running macOS software like Pixelmator Pro and Affinity software suite.
I'm already running multiple Docker Linux containers, headless Ubuntu on lima and GUI Ubuntu and Fedora VMs in UTM, so don't feel like I'm missing out on the Desktop Linux experience.
I could definitely do most of my development on Linux given .NET SDK and JetBrains products supports it, but I'll be waiting a few years at least for Asahi Linux to get feature parity before running it natively.
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What should Windows 11 users do to let Microsoft know that such behaviors are intrusive and offensive? Leave it for a proper OS. It might not be possible for your company issued computers if they don't allow you to use something else[1][2] but for your personnal uses it is fairly easy. [1] I doubt it would be configured to receive popup ads in that context anyway [2] Having a toxic work environment is a good reason…
> Leave it for a proper OS. > It might not be possible for your company issued computers if they don't allow you to use something else[1][2] but for your personnal [sic] uses it is fairly easy. It's not that easy, unless you're willing to make a bunch of sacrifices for the sake of using a different OS. Windows is by far the dominant desktop OS, and there's a lot of software people need and want to use that's availabl…
It is true that it can be difficult -- but, emphatically, no longer an excuse.
The Steam Deck has shown that there are no essential technical barriers to rendering the Windows operating system irrelevant.
This is good work, and it should be done.
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not Linux (depending on your line of work). Wider hardware choice, easier to upgrade, and no corporate oversight. Doesn't cover all use cases but it's a good option these days.
With computers like framework and system76, the community for hardware support is solid too now. Seriously considering a switch from M1. I feel like macOS is half baked development environment. I only stay because I never bought a Linux supported computer and I got the M1 air very cheap. But I am considering getting a framework as I just damaged a usb-c port and I am not entering apple’s repairability problem.
I've had excellent support from Linux across a variety of machines for 2 decades. Dell, Lenovo and HP.
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#95isn't this same behaviour when you open Google, they try to sell you a Chrome? Just cross selling their products using the medium they own.
Not really.
For starters, Windows is an operating system, not a website contained in browser. There are many differences in usage, privacy, security, etc.
Also, unlike a website or browser, if you got fed up and decide to leave, then changing the OS can range from challenging to practically impossible (outside your control).
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#96They would put you on smartscreen/windows defender blacklist if you did this from your desktop app.
Really scummy stuff to see (and disappointing to see it).
Microsoft recently made edge the only browser that will open email links from outlook... and the way to turn it off is so buried I don't think the average user knows how to do it. Lastly, this setting (much like system default browser on major windows update) resets upon a major outlook update.
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#97I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…
Darn, no GPU support for UTM. I'm using solidworks on Parallels/ARM windows 11 on my 14" M1 macbook pro and it works well, slightly faster than on my 2019 intel 13" macbook pro with bootcamp. I would love to move away from parallels and stop repurchasing it every time MacOS is updated and it stops working.
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#98"You might argue that this is Microsoft’s operating system, or that when using Microsoft’s browser and search engine it’s well within its rights to try and sway people away from Chrome." "Microsoft’s behaviors here are totally beyond a simple webpage prompt. I shouldn’t have to be dismissing pop-ups that appear on top of my apps and games, or ones that magically appear after I update my copy of Windows." Windows 11 i…
> What should Windows 11 users do to let Microsoft know that such behaviors are intrusive and offensive? They'll tell you to use the Feedback Hub, but all of that feedback promptly gets discarded or drowned out in the SNR of overzealous "insiders" acting as free QA for Microsoft praising every horrible decision they make.
There is literally no point in such an effort that doesn't involve the threat of significant impact, i.e. legal/regulatory penalty.
We've been in this world long enough, and we should be smarter about understanding that.
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#99I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…
Why not Linux (depending on your line of work). Wider hardware choice, easier to upgrade, and no corporate oversight. Doesn't cover all use cases but it's a good option these days.
The frustrating thing about shopping for x86 laptops (as you probably will be if you’re wanting to run Linux) is how few models come even a little close to comparing to MacBooks in terms of battery life even with tools like tlp running and CPU throttled down as far as it’ll go, and that’s to say nothing about heat and fan noise.
I’ve been looking around and the only two 12-14” options I can find that match that description are the HP Dragonfly G4 and ASUS Zenbook S OLED (AMD), and those still fall several hours short of the M2 Air, and the M3 Air will likely widen that gap with its SoC being on a smaller process node.
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only thing that a user can do is switch OS. Microsfts goal is to extract as much profit as possible. The main factors that oppose enshitification are users leaving (revenue is lost) or regulation (increases costs).
And I think this highlights the real problem. The issue isn't that MS is pulling some nonsense. It's that I can't really vote with my feet and stop using Windows.
But wherever and whatever you're doing you CAN make steps toward doing that.