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HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by Gud »

JediPig wrote: post #89

I love FreeBSD on personal servers and workstations. But lean into FreeBSD not into macOS look and feel. The m2 macs make it the best workstation out there. If you have that there is no business need for this os. Run it for fun but it’s never going to reach mass appeal

Don’t know what people expect from an operating system like FreeBSD. Will joe average install it on their family computer? Probably not.

Still FreeBSD quietly powers so many things, and has been used for so many platforms(Hotmail, Yahoo, WhatsApp, Netflix, etc). plus PlayStation, userland in OS X… plus all the network appliances(and storage).

It seems to me FreeBSD gives you a great platform to do your own thing without getting in your way.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by Melatonic »

egypturnash wrote: post #77
nawfalak wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like you're looking a bit too much into it and that this rant is a bit unnecessary. You write as though you're being attacked by the creators or something. It's not going to "replace your MacOS" or anything, but rather is a showcase of clean UI and UX. Looking through the "What" and "Why" sections on their Github says how it follows certain UI and UX guidelines; many of which Apple has adopted. I don't think y…

I'm critiquing the presentation. "helloSystem is a desktop system for creators with a focus on simplicity, elegance, and usability. Its design follows the “Less, but better” philosophy. It is intended as a system for “mere mortals”, welcoming to switchers from the Mac." Sounds like I'm somewhere near the target audience if you ask me.

Well for one you do not need to buy expensive Mac hardware......that seems like a pretty damn big selling point.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by pizzafeelsright »

swozey wrote: post #47

About 20 years ago I was an openbsd and freebsd admin, webhosting mostly. Then the rest of my maybe 16 year career was debian with some sprinkles of centos/rhel What would bring me to bsd today? Not in a negative way at all, I'm curious what people love about it. I barely remember much about it. I loved pf over iptables but I don't remember why. It has jailed containers which.. I think people still love? I'm not sure…

Same same. Today I'm indifferent to Linux flavors. I am not sure why I would use FreeBSD although I recall the community being very helpful.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by nawfalak »

egypturnash wrote: post #77
nawfalak wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like you're looking a bit too much into it and that this rant is a bit unnecessary. You write as though you're being attacked by the creators or something. It's not going to "replace your MacOS" or anything, but rather is a showcase of clean UI and UX. Looking through the "What" and "Why" sections on their Github says how it follows certain UI and UX guidelines; many of which Apple has adopted. I don't think y…

I'm critiquing the presentation. "helloSystem is a desktop system for creators with a focus on simplicity, elegance, and usability. Its design follows the “Less, but better” philosophy. It is intended as a system for “mere mortals”, welcoming to switchers from the Mac." Sounds like I'm somewhere near the target audience if you ask me.

I don't think so. You were critiquing the text about free software and privacy that they had in their Github which are valid reasons to use this if you subscribe to those philosophies. While I don't know how you feel about how MacOSs' UI looks at the moment, they had complaints with how modern MacOS looks a lot like iOS. If you wanted a similar experience to early OSX or OS9 and before and weren't too tech savvy, you'd probably enjoy this too.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by dgfitz »

Shared404 wrote: post #85
dgfitz wrote: post #66

> On GNU-style systems (e.g., most Linux distributions), status=progress does not work and can be left away. This isn’t really an accurate claim. How strange.

Yep. GNU dd definitely supports status=progress, at least in any modern version. Maybe they're thinking of busybox dd?

Ah yeah possibly. It just isn’t quite what they said.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

BoppreH wrote: post #61
jnsie wrote: post #11

I wonder if, in the future, stable diffusion or other AI techniques can be used to generate nice icon sets and other UI elements. Not that I'd expect Apple levels of design, but anything to bridge the gap would be nice...I'm primarily a macOS user, secondarily a windows user, and my forays into *nix have always provided a poor first impression. Anecdotal, of course...

Or bring back skins[0]! Have software read textures from areas in a big image, then let the user replace the image. Forest theme for Microsoft Teams! SciFi file explorer! I tried using MidJourney to generate exaggerated UI themes (not skins, just general themes for inspiration), but the results were disappointing. They were always gorgeous[1], but my prompt engineering skills couldn't coax it to use space efficiently…

this approach does not allow UI scaling, because the UI is made up of pixels.

the open source modular synthesis software VCV Rack has a UI composed entirely of SVG descriptions (even though 95% of the UI is provided by 3rd party modules that get loaded into the main program). They can look like anything you want, but the result is an infinitely (more or less) zoomable/scalable UI.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by WutWatWot »

jnsie wrote: post #11

I wonder if, in the future, stable diffusion or other AI techniques can be used to generate nice icon sets and other UI elements. Not that I'd expect Apple levels of design, but anything to bridge the gap would be nice...I'm primarily a macOS user, secondarily a windows user, and my forays into *nix have always provided a poor first impression. Anecdotal, of course...

Eh icons aren't what set macOS apart, it's UI considerations. I mean it looks fine but macOS would still be worth using if it looked like ass.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by WutWatWot »

jeroen79 wrote: post #34

i don't know why people wan't to keep cloning osx, it might looks nice, but time has proven its a quite unproductive gui

Funny—i'm very productive on macOS and feel the exact same as you do about pc interfaces (including all linux and bsd environments). I don't even know how i'd go about "fixing" (in my head) the horrifically bad keybindings that make these environments so hard to use.
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