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New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by tuetuopay »

mrguyorama wrote: post #61
justsomehnguy wrote: post #49

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Ah, yes, Gates personally banned the drivers for this 2020 WiFi cards. Or maybe it was Intel who did a bazillion of cards with a minor diffs and/or didn't ask MS to add this flavour to the default driver set, shipped with Windows install media?

I haven't used a device that Windows didn't ship drivers for In twenty years !

I recently had the (dis)pleasure to install Windows 10 on a Dell XPS laptop from 2018. The Windows installer had no drivers for the nvme controller _that is provided by the CPU itself_, so a platform controller.

Oh and getting the installer to recognize the drivers was much harder than the usual "stick the files on a thumb drive, plug to laptop, tell the installer". I had to generate a custom Windows ISO with the drivers preinstalled, for which the process is described by a single indian dude on a website very sparsely indexed by google.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

whalesalad wrote: post #86
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #82

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>Why not both? Because money. Owning a wide variety of premium HW, especially Apple, is a rare privileged wealthy western position. Most people on the planet own something in the ballpark of a ~$200 Lenovo/Acer as their main machine, so telling them to just buy an Apple and a 13th gen homelab, is like telling them "let them eat cake", especially that due to taxes and tariffs, HW in other countries often costs way mor…

If you can afford a $1000 laptop, Apple is the way to go with an M1 Air (cheaper secondhand or with an education discount). If Apple hardware is unaffordable I would certainly opt for Linux.

>If you can afford a $1000 laptop, Apple is the way to go with an M1 Air

Thanks, but I'm contempt with my Ryzen laptop with double the ram and storage at half the price of an M1, as my main and only machine.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by politelemon »

whalesalad wrote: post #74
DiabloD3 wrote: post #71

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I don't know any technical people who use Macs with OSX still installed. They all gave up on that trainwreck of an OS, and either their final Mac died and they replaced it with an even better laptop by a different vendor (Framework, et al), or they still own a Mac but it now runs Windows or Linux (and when that one dies, it will be their last, and they will become post-Mac, too). I know exceptionally few tech people…

What the heck are you on about? This is patently false. I've been using Mac hardware professionally since 05 in a ton of different environments. We very rarely had issues. Apple makes the best laptops in the world, nothing else comes remotely close.

Haven't found this to be true at all, what I do see is osx users not realizing they have problems or simply pretending it never happened.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by fuzzfactor »

toast0 wrote: post #33
whalesalad wrote: post #29

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I want to say RDP is limited to higher trims. I don’t think you can Remote Desktop to home. But otherwise I agree with your points.

Yeah, that seems familiar, but RDP hosting seems like another feature many people can live without / can mostly replace with other software for ocassional use.

With Home:

you also don't have Bitlocker

no Group Policy

no Active Directory

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by whalesalad »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #92
whalesalad wrote: post #86

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If you can afford a $1000 laptop, Apple is the way to go with an M1 Air (cheaper secondhand or with an education discount). If Apple hardware is unaffordable I would certainly opt for Linux.

>If you can afford a $1000 laptop, Apple is the way to go with an M1 Air Thanks, but I'm contempt with my Ryzen laptop with double the ram and storage at half the price of an M1, as my main and only machine.

I have always had a soft spot for AMD. I have been meaning to build a Ryzen rig.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by politelemon »

whalesalad wrote: post #34
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #30

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> I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming. - Office - Adobe - Ableton - Visual Studio

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Please read the guidelines on behavior in comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by bitwize »

rstat1 wrote: post #72
bitwize wrote: post #2

When Microsoft says "your CPU needs to be this high in order to run Windows 11", perhaps listen to them eh?

If their supported CPU list wasn't completely arbitrary BS, then you might be on something here. But it isn't There are CPUs that have no problem running the OS that are for no discernible reason "not supported". And I'm not talking about old crap like Pentium 4s or something. I'm talking about ones that are barely 5yrs old.

Microsoft is moving to a model of "signed software from power on to application level" for Windows. The supported CPUs have the TPM features necessary to support this transition.

Presumably, for Windows 12, remote attestation capability (Pluton) will be required.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by whalesalad »

gambiting wrote: post #83
whalesalad wrote: post #34

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>>Visual Studio as a developer for Windows apps is a different story… but then you have much bigger psychological issues I’m untrained to diagnose. WTF are you on about. Games development for PS5/Xbox and Switch only works on Windows, that's where the entire toolchain for these platforms is. It's not just windows apps. I love how so many people on HN like to pretend that Visual Studio isn't the most powerful IDE arou…

I don't know a single dev who enjoys using Visual Studio. It's a necessary evil. Let's be real here.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by whalesalad »

politelemon wrote: post #93
whalesalad wrote: post #74

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What the heck are you on about? This is patently false. I've been using Mac hardware professionally since 05 in a ton of different environments. We very rarely had issues. Apple makes the best laptops in the world, nothing else comes remotely close.

Haven't found this to be true at all, what I do see is osx users not realizing they have problems or simply pretending it never happened.

Examples? I've been CTO at multiple companies (+ managing IT rollout) including a defense contractor who relies heavily on MS infrastructure. At the end of the day Apple has always been the most pain free shit periodt. It literally just works.

I've gone so far as to deploy M1 Mini's in factory environments to run production processes for very large scale printing operations (think Amazon, Walgreens, tons of orders daily) and guess what I haven't been called in over a year because it is all rock solid.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by nullindividual »

rebolek wrote: post #66
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #30

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> I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming. - Office - Adobe - Ableton - Visual Studio

I can't comment on Office, Adobe and Visual Studio, but for Ableton or any other DAW, I would certainly choose macOS over Windows. Audio runs much smoother on Mac than on Windows. Lower latency, less dropouts, better overall stability from my experience. Too bad that audio is total joke on Linux. There's very good software, like BitWig and Reaper, but the audio subsystem is total mess doing random stuff all the time.…

The Windows Audio Stack had improvements in Win 10 for latency.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/a...

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