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Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by silisili »

bratbag wrote: post #83
silisili wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. Can't even squat my own body weight without my knees wanting to explode. I do think weight training is important, but with physical limitations...

I had the same. In my late 30's even kneeling hurt. That goes away once the muscles gain strength. I've had a personal trainer for years now and in my early 40s I can squat merrily with no pain. Also my neck and back pain have vanished, along with headaches I used to get that would start around the back of my neck and move over my head. Strength training really is amazing. My only regret is 20 years as an adult not d…

How did you strengthen them in that scenario? We may be a little different as I've had surgery in both knees(ACL and MCL). I'm interested in doing leg work, but physically can't squat...at least yet.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by raverbashing »

tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

SS is just one of many "starter programs", though I don't get why people like the dogmatic approach, or putting labels onto things

> awkwardly leaning over your lawn mower to grab a 20KG bag of concrete is pretty easy.

True. Still, don't do it (or, I mean, do it the proper way)

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by [deleted] »

zmmmmm wrote: post #70
tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

A similar vein but muuuuch simpler for anybody who isn't up for weights. Each day, before anything else: 1. 3 mins stretching 2. 20 (real) situps (3 mins) 3. 10 pushups (2 mins) I actually usually do a good bit more exercise more than this, but this is my minimum day starting routine, no matter where I am, or what I'm doing. It takes less than 10 minutes and keeps a bare minimum of strength in your lower back and arm…

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Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

In terms of web UX, one disability that hardly anyone considers is intellectual disability - but really many people who work in development (design, project management, programming) are outliers in terms of intellectual ability (albeit probably not as much as they think they are)

But we're all just temporarily smart as well, many people are not that bright before that first cup of coffee or if they are going through lots of stress (hence crunch time often decreasing productivity)

One of the problems I have is encountering design decisions that I think that must be a bug, only to have it turn out to be a real thing. This quirk in my character cost me a lot of money with the Danish department of business registration, - long story short when I said I filled out what they wanted filled out and speculated maybe their site was broken they said oh you probably made this specific mistake, everybody does that - but in the end I still had to pay thousands of dollars in fines and close down the company (it was when Denmark decided you had to specify the legal owner of an LLC or face forced closure with fines, about a year later they closed down all LLCs anyway)

on edit: of course a lot of devs have specific intellectual differences in ability - like ADHD.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by DoreenMichele »

sjg1729 wrote: post #65
DoreenMichele wrote: post #48

His privilege is showing more than he knows. Some people are born with disabilities. If you are lucky , you get to be temporarily abled. And oblivious to how fortunate you are until it leaves you. And then you get to gripe about "getting old" or whatever and kvetch about what you lost. Some people never had it. And never will.

The main point of this article is to inspire a bit more empathy and consideration for those with disabilities. He knows he's privileged, and that the 4/5 people who aren't currently disabled (by Sarah's count) are too; he's trying to help the 4/5 see themselves in the 1/5, too. Doesn't feel constructive to call him out for it

I used to work at a Fortune 500 company. While there, I gave up my car and began walking to work.

A teammate offered to pick me every morning but our schedules were a little different, so she couldn't take me home. There was a program for people ridesharing, some goody-two-shoes, pie-in-the-sky, "Let's promote the idea that people need to drive less" thing and she qualified for a special parking space for ridesharing with me.

And then someone else offered to take me home and also applied to this program and did not get the special parking space she was hoping for. Instead, the first woman lost her special parking privileges.

After that, I stopped participating in all the company programs aimed at rewarding people with cars for driving less by walking, biking, ridesharing, etc. for fear that as someone entirely without a car, no matter what I did, I would somehow be in violation of the rules which were geared towards people who owned cars and by default drove alone.

I happen to be seriously handicapped myself and my condition is congenital. If he is more entitled to give his views on this topic than I am, then something is extremely wrong.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by bratbag »

silisili wrote: post #91
bratbag wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same. In my late 30's even kneeling hurt. That goes away once the muscles gain strength. I've had a personal trainer for years now and in my early 40s I can squat merrily with no pain. Also my neck and back pain have vanished, along with headaches I used to get that would start around the back of my neck and move over my head. Strength training really is amazing. My only regret is 20 years as an adult not d…

How did you strengthen them in that scenario? We may be a little different as I've had surgery in both knees(ACL and MCL). I'm interested in doing leg work, but physically can't squat...at least yet.

I started off with a light slam ball provided by my trainer. No squats in sight for the first few months!

Over the shoulder throws and ball slams were my leg exercises for a long time.

Edit: the main thing was having a good pt who was aware of my injuries. They could tell me when to stop and when to push.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by cheald »

anigbrowl wrote: post #76
cheald wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It still doesn't change the fact that a suboptimal program which keeps beginners engaged and moving forward is infinitely superior to a more complex one that they fall off of.

This is survivor bias; SS keeps some beginners engaged but there's no count of those who drop off or never start it. I was in the latter group; it was the first program recommended to me, but I was leery of it because I don't have medical insurance and was skeptical about the feasibility of the suggestions based on what I knew about my own body, so I just did nothing about it. When I did start lifting, I started out…

It's definitely not magic, but it's on the 80 side of the 80/20 split, IMO.

It isn't the right starter program for everyone, but then, nothing is. The best program for the beginner is whichever one keeps you consistently showing up and moving forward.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by Paul-Craft »

satvikpendem wrote: post #45
nathias wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't trust anything on reddit...

I would. For example, /r/AskHistorians is extremely high quality. Don't mistake a forum for all of its users as one monolith.

I think they are referring to fitness-related advice on Reddit, but, yes, there are a number of quite high quality subreddits out there among the not so great ones.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by throwaway4good »

tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

I think that is missing the point a bit; regardless of how healthy a lifestyle you live you still will end up suffering from some kind of disability. Perhaps of a cause completely outside your control (stroke, heart problem, accident).

Not to say that strength training isn't good for you of course. But it may not actually prepare you for things to come (unlike having a healthy family life, an identity outside work and physical fitness).

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

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Post by vekker »

tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

I really enjoyed the Starting Strength program (I was going to abbreviate it at first, but then realized that sounds a bit sketchy out of context), and I noticed the benefits too. The only reason I quit a few years ago is because of my concerns about the strain it puts on the cardiovascular system. Especially for someone already doing mostly desk work, I wonder how healthy it really is.

I still do resistance training, but with higher reps and less weight. Not incrementally increasing the weight as SS prescribes.

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