I wonder if this had anything to do with them being desensitized to cones because of the cones on the hoods...
Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
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Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#92This might be a naive question, but are driverless lanes being considered? For instance we have bike lanes all over the US. It might make sense to make a similar investment for AI-friendly lanes to help transition to driverless transportation.
Why would we want to spend so much money to transition to driverless transportation? Just take PT if you don't want to drive.
Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#93This might be a naive question, but are driverless lanes being considered? For instance we have bike lanes all over the US. It might make sense to make a similar investment for AI-friendly lanes to help transition to driverless transportation.
There are bike lanes all over the US? Since when?
Also, isn't Musk setting up Hyperloop, or was that another publicity stunt?
Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#94This is good, this is how the AI learns and gets better. Just like a learner driver who stalls the engine, forgets to put on a turn signal and can't keep up with traffic. We've all got to learn sometime.
Plus there is an opportunity for all the cars to learn the same lesson at once and forever. Also humans can learn from this too. It’s not hard to imagine a new type of safety cone that has an explicit sign for autonomous vehicles to stop far far away.
> It’s not hard to imagine a new type of safety cone that has an explicit sign for autonomous vehicles to stop far far away.
Isn't that kind of defeating the point of autonomous vehicles if we need to build a world that will accommodate them?
Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#95The scary part of this is it went through construction cones and flaggers with stop signs to end up in the concrete. Basically, this thing went right through a construction zone without stopping. Granted, people are this dumb every single day. But who is liable for the fines here?
The owner of the car initially. The passenger(s) and maker may also be liable depending on circumstances.
Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#96This might be a naive question, but are driverless lanes being considered? For instance we have bike lanes all over the US. It might make sense to make a similar investment for AI-friendly lanes to help transition to driverless transportation.
I don't think it would make sense. Dedicated lanes still need to close or have construction sometimes, and you still have to get out of the dedicated lane at some point and drive to your final destination. It wouldn't solve any problem, it would just make drivers even more complacent and unlikely to act when their car gets out of the dedicated lane and crashes into something.
Bike lanes make sense because bikes can't go as fast as cars and are unprotected in the event of a collision. Bus lanes make sense because buses have dedicated predictable routes, and efficient bus lanes increase the number of people that can get around.
Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#97This is good, this is how the AI learns and gets better. Just like a learner driver who stalls the engine, forgets to put on a turn signal and can't keep up with traffic. We've all got to learn sometime.
Plus there is an opportunity for all the cars to learn the same lesson at once and forever. Also humans can learn from this too. It’s not hard to imagine a new type of safety cone that has an explicit sign for autonomous vehicles to stop far far away.
>Plus there is an opportunity for all the cars to learn the same lesson at once and forever.
I dont believe thay every car maker will not try to invent their own models
Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#98This might be a naive question, but are driverless lanes being considered? For instance we have bike lanes all over the US. It might make sense to make a similar investment for AI-friendly lanes to help transition to driverless transportation.
Why would we want to spend so much money to transition to driverless transportation? Just take PT if you don't want to drive.
I'm all for public transport, and I don't think this will happen but...
Because driverless cars are safer, faster and more efficient.
Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#99This might be a naive question, but are driverless lanes being considered? For instance we have bike lanes all over the US. It might make sense to make a similar investment for AI-friendly lanes to help transition to driverless transportation.
We absolutely do not have bike lanes all over the US, most cities are barely getting started adding them
Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#100This is good, this is how the AI learns and gets better. Just like a learner driver who stalls the engine, forgets to put on a turn signal and can't keep up with traffic. We've all got to learn sometime.
Plus there is an opportunity for all the cars to learn the same lesson at once and forever. Also humans can learn from this too. It’s not hard to imagine a new type of safety cone that has an explicit sign for autonomous vehicles to stop far far away.
> It’s not hard to imagine a new type of safety cone that has an explicit sign for autonomous vehicles to stop far far away.
Car companies will never build in failsafes like that, it would be too easy for anyone to put up those signs anywhere. Cars and streets are made for human drivers, there is no way around it and no alternative to making your car AI as good as human drivers. If you can't do that, you can make a much simpler train "AI" and put it on tracks. We did that in the 60s.