Let's go deeper: website is hosted on your phone, but visitor has to call your phone number to access it, using a dial-up modem.
Every phone should be able to run personal websites
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Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apps can already open ports and with the HTTP DNS record arbitrary ports can be used to serve http/3 content. Services like RDP and several types of VPN server all connect to unprivileged ports any app can listen on. There should be a separate permission for listening on standard, reserved ports (anything in the IANA docs for all I care) that should require manual consent, like with location access. In fact, I think…
> HTTP DNS record Can you tell me more about that? I know about SRV records from Minecraft (of all things!) for a similar purpose, can you point me towards a reference of what is this about? Wikipedia fails me.
You can check this post from Cloudflare[1], and from there you can reach the IETF draft[2].
[1]: https://blog.cloudflare.com/speeding-up-https-and-http-3-neg...
[2]: Current version is https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-...
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody is saying that everyone should host websites on your phone. The author is saying you should be able to, if you so choose. Android and iOS put restrictions on what applications on a phone are able to do, often for arbitrary reasons. You can't hack a web server in your closet to run on port 80 without jailbreaking your phone/unlocking the bootloader and rooting your phone, and I can't really think of a reason wh…
Unrestrained webservers on phones is an edge case that would certainly be abused by all sorts of crapware while being a very uncommon usecase for mobile devices at all.
So? That's up to the user to decide.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#94Please no. Phones go into tunnels, run out of battery, and go indoors where there's a poor signal or none at all. They make terribly unreliable servers. Not to mention how much faster this would chew up battery life. If you want to keep a spare phone plugged in all the time in your closet, connected to Wifi/Ethernet, and hack it to be a webserver, then go ahead. But webservers on mobile devices, being used in a mobil…
Nobody is saying that everyone should host websites on your phone. The author is saying you should be able to, if you so choose. Android and iOS put restrictions on what applications on a phone are able to do, often for arbitrary reasons. You can't hack a web server in your closet to run on port 80 without jailbreaking your phone/unlocking the bootloader and rooting your phone, and I can't really think of a reason wh…
Hot take: Android is not an operating system.
Go install AOSP and see how useless your device becomes. An OS is more than a kernel and filesystem, it's also a basic set of userspace utilities and functionality. Last time I installed AOSP on a device- wifi wasn't even supported. And Google is removing messaging from AOSP. Phone OS my ass, it's useless without 3rd party cruft that isn't available to end users.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#95Please no. Phones go into tunnels, run out of battery, and go indoors where there's a poor signal or none at all. They make terribly unreliable servers. Not to mention how much faster this would chew up battery life. If you want to keep a spare phone plugged in all the time in your closet, connected to Wifi/Ethernet, and hack it to be a webserver, then go ahead. But webservers on mobile devices, being used in a mobil…
Nobody is saying that everyone should host websites on your phone. The author is saying you should be able to, if you so choose. Android and iOS put restrictions on what applications on a phone are able to do, often for arbitrary reasons. You can't hack a web server in your closet to run on port 80 without jailbreaking your phone/unlocking the bootloader and rooting your phone, and I can't really think of a reason wh…
I remember running a web server on an old tablet several years ago. What changed? Is it not possible on newer devices?
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#96I remember running a server on an old tablet several years ago, it was awful. You would have to deal with the server not automatically starting up, not to mention the battery eventually failing and expanding.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you’re getting more than a thousand requests a day you’re gonna move to a real web host anyway
My blog has been on the front page of Hacker News a couple of times with GitHub Pages. It didn't break a sweat.
That's because you're using Microsoft's infrastructure for your site.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody is saying that everyone should host websites on your phone. The author is saying you should be able to, if you so choose. Android and iOS put restrictions on what applications on a phone are able to do, often for arbitrary reasons. You can't hack a web server in your closet to run on port 80 without jailbreaking your phone/unlocking the bootloader and rooting your phone, and I can't really think of a reason wh…
Unrestrained webservers on phones is an edge case that would certainly be abused by all sorts of crapware while being a very uncommon usecase for mobile devices at all.
I'm assuming the best intentions from you but I'd like to point out two things:
1. When discussing human rights (which apply to technological freedoms) reducing a need to "an edge case" is the basis of marginalization, defined as "treatment of a person, group, or concept as insignificant or peripheral". Therefore, it is never appropriate to rely on such language to prove a point, especially when we are discussing software which had to go out of its way to restrict freedoms.
2. It's an incredibly slippery slope to use "crapware" as a justification for reducing the freedoms of the individual. Criminals will find a way, do not create a hostile user experience.
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#99Please no. Phones go into tunnels, run out of battery, and go indoors where there's a poor signal or none at all. They make terribly unreliable servers. Not to mention how much faster this would chew up battery life. If you want to keep a spare phone plugged in all the time in your closet, connected to Wifi/Ethernet, and hack it to be a webserver, then go ahead. But webservers on mobile devices, being used in a mobil…
how about some p2p web server when you go offline, another node picks it up?
Re: Every phone should be able to run personal websites
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unrestrained webservers on phones is an edge case that would certainly be abused by all sorts of crapware while being a very uncommon usecase for mobile devices at all.
I'm assuming the best intentions from you but I'd like to point out two things: 1. When discussing human rights (which apply to technological freedoms) reducing a need to "an edge case" is the basis of marginalization, defined as "treatment of a person, group, or concept as insignificant or peripheral". Therefore, it is never appropriate to rely on such language to prove a point, especially when we are discussing sof…
Is the right of a handful of people to run a web server on their phone more important than the right of millions of "unsophisticated" users to not be scammed / abused by malware?
Since it's inception smart phones have been a consumer platform, used for consuming content. The platform for tinkerers already exists. It's called a PC with Linux installed. Every platform does not need to cater to your needs.