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My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by hardwaresofton »

nordsieck wrote: post #47
stewartmcgown wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to be CTO of an Uber Eats style service that ran on hosting costs of about £100pm. Thousands of orders every few days, real time driver tracking, self hosted invoice generation, the works. Hetzner servers, Docker Swarm and Cloudflare for the tech.

> Hetzner servers It is truly amazing to me the value that is provided by renting hardware instead of VPSes. As long as you're willing to roll your own infrastructure instead of buy into a cloud provider's infrastructure.

I'm working on a middle-tier solution for this gap -- I call it Nimbus, but basically the idea is to provide managed services at low cost cloud prices.

There's no reason someone should have to run a service like Chatwoot themselves, the software is so good that it's mostly set & forget for most small use cases.

That's where I come in. Unfortunately I don't have ChatWoot yet, but I have (and use) Umami for page view tracking extensively on my own projects now, with Nimbus[1]. The dogfood tastes decent so far.

[1]: https://nimbusws.com/managed/umami/

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by js4ever »

thecodrr wrote: post #11

I would NOT call this frugal at all, actually. You are overspending in a lot of places and under spending in others. $281.32 per month for such a simple service is...astonishing. Change Vercel and Intercom with Cloudflare and Chatwoot (self hosted), and you have saved $120/mo. Get rid of Ahrefs for Ubersuggest (or no SEO tool at all) to save about $80 more. That leaves you with $81.32/mo. If you try even harder, you…

Or use managed chatwoot instance for $10/month, so you don't have the devops burden https://elest.io/open-source/chatwoot

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by knocte »

styren wrote: post #67
knocte wrote: post #23

> GitHub Be careful with using their CI tho, even if it's good, you hit the limit quite fast (especially storage, not minutes; and they don't report properly where the storage expenditure comes, so it's very frustrating).

You can quite easily plug in your own CI runner on Github and reduce the cost by 20 times or more, especially if you're already running k8s. (I wrote a post about it for the cheap managed k8s service I built https://symbiosis.host/blog/using-actions-runners )

> and reduce the cost by 20 times or more,

How do you reduce the cost of zero?

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by harshitaneja »

nordsieck wrote: post #47
stewartmcgown wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to be CTO of an Uber Eats style service that ran on hosting costs of about £100pm. Thousands of orders every few days, real time driver tracking, self hosted invoice generation, the works. Hetzner servers, Docker Swarm and Cloudflare for the tech.

> Hetzner servers It is truly amazing to me the value that is provided by renting hardware instead of VPSes. As long as you're willing to roll your own infrastructure instead of buy into a cloud provider's infrastructure.

Hetzner is great and I love it and use it for all my dev needs. But there availability is in limited zones and for production I do suffer from the latency. Haven't found any other provider which costs anywhere near the same(every comparable server is at least 2x the cost). I use their AX41-NVME. Any suggestions of an alternate?

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by jiriro »

intelVISA wrote: post #85
nordsieck wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hetzner servers It is truly amazing to me the value that is provided by renting hardware instead of VPSes. As long as you're willing to roll your own infrastructure instead of buy into a cloud provider's infrastructure.

If you know what you're doing it's easy enough to roll out a multi-region distributed system with HA and backups on a pretty modest ( However, most people do not - some will learn, but most will fall for the cloud marketing depts and become infra renters for life. Teach a man to fish, and so on.

What is HA ?

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by wlesieutre »

jiriro wrote: post #98
intelVISA wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you know what you're doing it's easy enough to roll out a multi-region distributed system with HA and backups on a pretty modest ( However, most people do not - some will learn, but most will fall for the cloud marketing depts and become infra renters for life. Teach a man to fish, and so on.

What is HA ?

Guessing "high availability"

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by p3rls »

cowsandmilk wrote: post #56

May be a weirder question to ask, but curious about the Delaware LLC decision. If I was creating a C-corp, Delaware makes sense, but for an LLC it feels weird unless the author is in Delaware. I also don’t see any cost for registering as a foreign LLC wherever they are located, so maybe they are in Delaware.

I imagined myself getting dragged through New York's legal system and that was all it took for me
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