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The unix69 keyboard layout: nerdy and nice

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Re: The unix69 keyboard layout: nerdy and nice

#91
IMO, move tilde back, get rid of escape and delete (anyone enthusiast enough to get a Unix keyboard uses ctrl-h and ctrl-[, right)?

Now we have room to do a proper fancy return key, and fit all 4 macro buttons in the top right, so we can get page up and page down back (above the right arrow key).

Re: The unix69 keyboard layout: nerdy and nice

#92
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I also suffer from rheumatism, and I spent years (and many hundreds of dollars) trying out split keyboards before finding out that my problems had nothing to do with wrist positions. I'm now typing comfortably on a rectangular chiclet (Apple Magic) keyboard.

I tried some mechanical keyboards back in the day for the "benefits". I never got it and my hands would be strained from typing on the high travel, high resistance keys. The Apple Keyboard (I use the UK/English International) is so much easier on my hands. They're easy to find, well-supported and robust.

Different people have different problems. I used Apple keyboards for years and developed wrist pains. Switched to split keyboards and things got much better since then.

There are also many mechanical switches with little travel and low force (eg. Choc v1, Kailh Super Speed).

Re: The unix69 keyboard layout: nerdy and nice

#93
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I am continually baffled by how keyboard enthusiasts almost never have ergonomic layouts. If you care this much about typing, surely the first thing you do is get an ergo layout. The rectangle layout is really bad, people! How can you spend this much time and energy and money on keyboards, and keep using the awful rectangle layout?

Just got myself a Glove80 with the linear Choc Pro Red switchtes (35gf). Glad I held off on other keyboards for this. It's so satisfying to type on. It's only been more than a couple of days and I already got the hand of it for the most part. Trying Coleman makes it even easier and I plan on being proficient on Coleman and qwerty.

The Glove80 is great! It's like the Kinesis Advantage, but with improved key wells and thumb clusters.

Re: The unix69 keyboard layout: nerdy and nice

#94
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There is the world of ergo and/or split keyboards, which is quite fascinating, but rather expensive to `try one that best fits me`. (Ergodox EZ, Kineses advantage, OLKB splits and many more) There is also the Alice layout, which is an interesting step towards ergonomics on a traditional keyboard. I wish there was a keyboard club or something that let you try these out for a week or so.

> I wish there was a keyboard club or something that let you try these out for a week or so. There's a useful tool for comparing ergo layouts and printing out 1:1 scale templates to get an idea of how they would fit your hand size: https://compare.splitkb.com It's not quite a substitute for actually using a real keyboard, but it can help to narrow down what you might want to try.

Sadly printing out 2D layouts doesn't work for contoured keyboards. Switching to the contoured Kinesis Advantage was the largest improvement for me (much better than the Kyria, Ferris Sweep, Moonlander, or Keyboardio Model 100). I would've never tried the Advantage if I had used a flat keyboard comparison tool.

(Now using a Glove80, which provides benefits over the Advantage2 and doesn't have the issues of the Advantage360 Pro.)

Re: The unix69 keyboard layout: nerdy and nice

#95
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> A proper Unix keyboard layout must have escape next to 1 and control next to A. I don't get it, why is this a hard requirement?

Vim reasons I'm guessing

Probably, but it's still an awful pinky stretch a gazillion times a day. I have escape on my thumb cluster. Easy to reach and utilizes the strong thumbs.

Re: The unix69 keyboard layout: nerdy and nice

#96
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Vim reasons I'm guessing

Maybe but I strongly recommend Ctrl-[ instead. Life changing.

Uf. Get a keyboard with a thumb cluster and put Esc there. I use vi bindings everywhere and not putting Esc on a an easy to reach key would be terrible.

Re: The unix69 keyboard layout: nerdy and nice

#99
These things make sense to me, but I do other things with these locations.

Caps Lock is now Compose so I can write everyone's name correctly.

My GNU screen escape key is ` with `~ for a literal `. I never ever type ` because $() is the right way to do subshells. If I need to paste something with ` in it, I temporarily change this. I live in screen, even starting X11 programs from it, so this is more important than the actual Esc key!

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