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HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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> but at the same time there is something deeply dysfunctional about our mercenary attitude toward our work relationships. Mercenary attitude is the healthiest attitude there is. It’s not hypocritical, it’s not elusive it’s what it is.

In the context of our current work culture, yes I think I agree with that. But I think that's a symptom of how dysfunctional our current work culture is. edit: > Can you tell us more? I literally can't actually, at least not as a reply to you, because dang has once again limited my ability to post on HN. Too many left-leaning folks here already, I guess. Here is what my reply would have been: > If you're happy with t…

Nobody is happy with the relationship between employee and employer being adversarial.

It's just a consequence of what each person wants out of the relationship. The employer wants to extract as much labor as possible for the minimum price. The employee wants to extract the maximum price for minimum labor.

Many employers have an unrealistic expectation that their employees will have the same passion as they do about the product/company. What makes it especially heinous is that the employer will become wealthy off the labor of the employees, and then be upset when the employees want a piece of the pie.

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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> This comes as disappointing news, as we've all built strong connections with our fellow Hackeronies. Sorry my little Hackeronie. I'm afraid I'll be firing you now.

Does anyone else feel weird about these terms used for employees. Hackeronis, Twittarians, Redditites, coinbese?

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Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Slightly, it feels... hivemind-y? Working at a company I identify most with my direct colleagues/team, less so with wider orgs. Feels comparable to what I felt during high school "pep rallies". Hackeroni sounds like a pasta, and I'm sure I'd meme the shit out of it if I worked there

That seems like the point of the company demonym, got to drink that kool aid. What I find personality disingenuous (or perhaps even insidious) is the push to make everyone feel like they are an integral part of a group and then treat them like disposable objects when it’s more convenient at that moment.

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Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Does anyone else feel weird about these terms used for employees. Hackeronis, Twittarians, Redditites, coinbese?

In small groups and organic kinda thing that the individuals come up with is fine. IBMer back in the day felt natural and inoffensive. But it was also pretty generic. Organizations of even moderate size and it gets slapped on like a label on your forehead by management… and it starts to feel weird and insincere…. and as they trend towards cutie affectionate names it gets really creepy IMO. Personally I prefer a littl…

> IBMer back in the day felt natural and inoffensive.

But "digit" to refer to DEC employees never really did.

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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huh. no substantive comments yet. overreaction to “hackeronies”. i like cute names like that. it also rubs the salt in the wound during a layoff so i further enjoy the irony.

does this mean the pentest industry as a whole is in decline? or did h1 over invest and is having a hangover now? or are competitors starting to drink their milkshake? or is shift left working?

i do also wonder how this affects their downstream contractors. “flours” to be consistent with their employee naming scheme.

thanks

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Does anyone else feel weird about these terms used for employees. Hackeronis, Twittarians, Redditites, coinbese?

Every group of people creates some name to call themselves. That said, management should really not be using those names.

> Every group of people creates some name to call themselves.

That's not so. I haven't actually worked for a company where the employees call themselves any kind of special name.

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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We can check the Layoff Message Bingo square for having a cringey cutsie name for employees, > strong connections with our fellow Hackeronies

You're the second person in this thread to misspell "cutesie" like this... or is "cutsie" a regional spelling I'm not aware of, or another word altogether?

I've spelled it that way (and have seen it spelled that way) my whole life, but your comment made me look it up. I could only find it in one place:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cutsie

But my use of it predates the internet. I suspect this is a regionalism.

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Does anyone else feel weird about these terms used for employees. Hackeronis, Twittarians, Redditites, coinbese?

No, it's part of how you show culture. I think Hackeronies is the best/most ridiculous I've heard. I always say "____ employees" or "____ team members" because that's the culture of where I work.

> it's part of how you show culture.

I show I'm part of the culture by working well with my team. What more is really needed?

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

#99
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> This comes as disappointing news, as we've all built strong connections with our fellow Hackeronies. Sorry my little Hackeronie. I'm afraid I'll be firing you now.

Did this company name-based nickname for employees start from Google calling their employees Googlers in the early 2000s? I don't think companies like Walmart, McDonalds, JPMorgan, etc have nicknames for their employees. Does anyone know when this all started?

No, it predates Google by at least several decades. But in the Olden Times, these were usually in engineering companies, and came from the employees themselves. Engineers having a laugh, and making a bit of fun of their employer.

At some point, though, some companies started adopting such language in official communications. In my opinion, that's when it becomes cringe.

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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> This comes as disappointing news, as we've all built strong connections with our fellow Hackeronies. Sorry my little Hackeronie. I'm afraid I'll be firing you now.

Does anyone else feel weird about these terms used for employees. Hackeronis, Twittarians, Redditites, coinbese?

"Twittarians" sounds lofty, a knowledgeable group. "Redditites" sounds like a mob, possibly armed with sticks. "Coinbese" sounds... like a mindless herd? But "Hackeronis" is just patronising, considering their audience why are they not simply "Hackers"? That can't be a bad word in their context!
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