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Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

eldaisfish wrote: post #75
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #65

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>because it is illegal to measure demographic breakdowns in many European countries It really isn't illegal to measure, where did you come up with that?

It is literally illegal to gather race or ethnicity based data in Europe. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/16/france-and-ger...

Where in that article does it say it's illegal to gather ethnical data in the EU? You're talking nonsense, I lived in 2 EU countries and government had ethnical data on citizens.

From where I read the article, it it says the contrary, Germany has racism and discrimination on the labor and housing market, but it can't be proven because it gathers no data.

So having no data actually makes the problem worse since racism and discrimination will continue to exist in practice (humans gonna be tribal) but you can't prove it because you have no data because you don't wanna be seen as racist.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy. You're just turning a blind eye on racism while touting yourself as a crusader against racism.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by epolanski »

eldaisfish wrote: post #75
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>because it is illegal to measure demographic breakdowns in many European countries It really isn't illegal to measure, where did you come up with that?

It is literally illegal to gather race or ethnicity based data in Europe. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/16/france-and-ger...

Yeah, seems racist, why do it?

Never understood the fixation in US of breaking every stat by ethnicity or skin color.

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Post by gryn »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #65
whimsicalism wrote: post #14

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Europe also largely just has a less pluralistic and diverse society than the coastal US. Difficult to get the exact stats because it is illegal to measure demographic breakdowns in many European countries.

>because it is illegal to measure demographic breakdowns in many European countries It really isn't illegal to measure, where did you come up with that?

it's the case at least in france

https://www.insee.fr/en/information/2388586

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by FredPret »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #44
FredPret wrote: post #6

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Ambitious, capitalistic emigrants are going to choose the US over anywhere else. In addition, for immigrants from Europe/Asia/Africa, the US has almost complete power to pick and choose candidates whereas Europe is physically attached. One last factor I noticed as an immigrant is that newer societies, like the US and Canada, are easier to fit into. For older ones like in Europe, it's just harder to change your identi…

>This isn't a fault on Europe's part, it's probably just natural progression. I'd say it is, considering they/we have decades of data on what makes immigrants successful and what not.

I wouldn't say that a society has a moral duty to even accept immigrants. I am one and am eternally grateful that I get to live in Canada.

But take a country like Japan - they have near zero immigrants and they seem to like that.

If you have an open society with a flexible identity like the US, Canada, Australia, and maybe others, then you get the benefit of ambitious immigrants coming to grow your economy. But this isn't doable by or desirable to every other nation.

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Post by HWR_14 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #49
throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22

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The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

> From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, applying, getting approved for a loan. Your POV is simply, factually, wrong; more people get high SATs and apply to the Ivy League schools than they can admit by a wide margin, and there are a lot of tricks (many of which leverage accidents of birth, wealth, and social circle) beyond that which go to getting to the top of the list. The bigge…

For the hyperrich, setting aside 10 or 20 admissions for "idiots who bring new science buildings with them" seems to benefit literally everyone at the school.

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Post by dublinben »

mlinhares wrote: post #36
throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22

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The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

That's 100% NOT how to enter an Ivy League college, there's a lot of preparation, planning and "tips and tricks" you get by hiring people specialized in "college applications" to get there. The odds you'll get to an Ivy League college without help from college admission consultants and careful planning is pretty close to 0.

That may be the case for undistinguished applicants with no particular outstanding qualities who need to set themselves apart from the rest of the crowd. Everyone I know who attended an Ivy came from an underrepresented background of one kind or another, and got in simply on their credentials.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by Jenk »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

> wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?

It is using a very well established (i.e., has been used for a long time) terminology to describe familial relationships.

The "first" refers to how many horizontal genealogy lines are crossed (self -> sibling -> first cousin -> second cousin -> etc.) the "once" refers to the vertical, so the "first cousin once removed" refers to either your cousin's parent or child, and as we refer to our cousin's parents as aunt or uncle, we usually conclude that your "first cousin once remove" is your aunt/uncle's grandchild, ergo your [first] cousin's child.

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Post by mustafa_pasi »

agloe_dreams wrote: post #53
bakuninsbart wrote: post #23

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I think a major difference, at least to my country, Germany, is that in the US the university you graduate from has an outsized influence on your career potential, especially when it comes to senior positions at large companies. On the contrary, here in Germany these positions are usually filled through either familial connections or company-internal mentorships. Board members and C-suite often have been with the com…

A key element in the US is that VC is a poison. With growth at all costs as a priority, many US companies are focused on getting whomever is willing to push sales over all else, this generally requires a name with a history of success so most internal hires are out. Also, most of these companies won't exist in 20 years to have someone whom has been there for 20 years.

But the US is still performing better on all metrics:

1. more innovation 2. high economic growth 3. better salaries

Whatever you are doing works.

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Post by hot_gril »

zarkov99 wrote: post #38
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

I do not see it that way. I was born in Europe and immigrated to the US. In my mind the differences is that the US attracts more ambitious and talented people than Europe.

My Middle Eastern family members always say the word around their nations of origin is, move to the US if you want to work hard and succeed, move to Germany or France if you want to chill and get free money.
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