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Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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If you're talking about doing the playback on Ubuntu, you lose the high-definition. I guess it may not be important for you, but I expect someone who sunk a fair amount of change on a high-end TV to care.

At that point, hit the high seas and ditch the nonsense

Even then, last time I checked HDR playback on linux was a very hit-or-miss thing.

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Umm no need to pay for many or any streaming service then that consumer problem is solved just watch the free outlets like YouTube. Hollywood's biggest competitor is content creators on Youtube, Tiktok, etc ... my bet is they will need to compete and many paid offerings will consolidate and become free / less expensive to compete with all the free content creators on YouTube, Tiktok and etc. If you look at where the…

I'm not convinced that Hollywood really competes with TikTok. Going out for a movie date sounds a lot more interesting than "let's go flop on the couch and watch TikTok/YouTube all evening."

“Netflix and chill” was coined for a reason.

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I'm not convinced that Hollywood really competes with TikTok. Going out for a movie date sounds a lot more interesting than "let's go flop on the couch and watch TikTok/YouTube all evening."

Does Hollywood still make most of its money from theater ticket sales?

If it does look at the box office results this year or lack of them compared to the last few years ... many not opening and or close to 100 million seen in many prior years.

Could be a mix things from attention spans changing in various demographics to economics to increased spending in travel to other things.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Time to pay the rent for the stuff you thought you owned.

Closed ecosystems and walled gardens have all the charm of dental surgery these days but there are all the users.

This is why we need more open standards. Open standards mean open competition and helps reduce monopolies.

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I'm waiting for the day when Microsoft starts asking 30% of revenue on Windows 12...

I'm waiting for the day when TSMC starts asking 30% of revenue for using their FabStore. Or ASML, for that matter.

At this rate, why not having the mining companies charge 30% of revenue for using their metals.

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Roku does the same. At this point I would be surprised if any box or TV isn't taking 30%.

One of the reasons the state of smart home TV really disappoints me. Logical conclusion is we'll all end up with Netflix HDMI sticks, Hulu sticks etc etc etc. DRM means we're never going to end up with a fully open TV player.

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The difference is I feel Apple's walls protect me as well as their profits. I do not feel the same about Amazon/Microsoft/Meta/Google.

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If you had any reason it was bad for me, feel free to present it.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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The trickle down effects of Apple being a $3T corporation that is widely beloved and did it all on the back of a fiercely guarded walled garden.

Back in the days when TiVo was a thing, I built a MythTV box including all the troubleshooting of a capture card, X windows settings, getting a remote to work, etc. to the point where my non-tech spouse could use it like a set top box. It even looked like a set top box. This was when Netflix was DVD by mail.

The last Windows laptop I bought bricked itself in a week, the Amazon stick needed constant reboots, I don't care about side-loading apps/widgets/software on my devices - I want them to be like my refrigerator and just work. AppleTV devices are much better than others. Once you're in the Apple walled garden things are much easier on me as an end user. There are seamless transitions from device to device if I want, sharing between them is a breeze. Sure other platforms are "open" or might have more advanced features, but I don't want to waste my time doing tech support having the BeenThereDoneThat™ patch.

Edit to add: "open" usually just means you have countless versions of "standards" to try and get things to interoperate. I deal enough with that at work to be turned off from dealing with that at home when I just want to chill and consume whatever nonsense I'm into.

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If you're talking about doing the playback on Ubuntu, you lose the high-definition. I guess it may not be important for you, but I expect someone who sunk a fair amount of change on a high-end TV to care.

Do you mean HDR? High definition video playback works fine on Linux. Very performant even with low end hardware.

The content providers will refuse to serve the video to you without DRM, attestation, HDCP, whatever new crap some MBA came up with to justify a paycheck to some other MBA…
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