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Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by fnfjfk » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:41 PM UTC

dizhn wrote: post #9

https://thebrowser.company/values/ I don't think I want to have anything to do with this company. Super cringe. I get the impression that Arc will be a form over function product reflecting someone's understanding of good design and insisting on it. Not that I'd use a closed source browser anyway.

Cringe is an understatement… I would love to see a company that simply stated the point was to make money. Finance companies feel no shame at this, why are tech companies so cringe with the mission and vision stuff?

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

#92

Post by rmdashrfv » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:42 PM UTC

JohnFen wrote: post #13

Their website still doesn't tell me anything useful enough about the browser to let me know if it's something that would interest me. It's all just marketing-speak.

This has been my primary issue with Arc. I can't tell what it is and the copy on the website reads like it comes from the world's most pretentious designer. I feel like any tech blogger covering this can't be taken seriously when they say "I just decided to give Arc a try because of how it looks" when there were 0 pictures on the website and the intro heading was literally "Arc is a browser". Okay Arc.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

#93

Post by ryanolsonx » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:47 PM UTC

I love Arc. They've built a browser that's truly so pleasant to use.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by awill » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:53 PM UTC

I dislike when companies gives themselves names like this "The Browser company"

Just like the hotel in Las Vegas called "The Hotel". Is it arrogance, or ignorance?

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by jFriedensreich » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:54 PM UTC

jer0me wrote: post #45

jFriedensreich wrote: post #40

My biggest issue is still that i cannot export all the data in case i want to switch to something else or they fail. Apart from this the UI concept is really what we need to move browsers forward and the new approach to tabs vs windows vs bookmarks is genius.

You can export bookmarks, history, and passwords just like any other Chromium browser.

i just tired it and its even worse: they dont use the chrome bookmarks store at all so you can export it but the bookmarks will just be completely empty!

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by _Parfait_ » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:55 PM UTC

presbyterian wrote: post #43

_Parfait_ wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you can make folders and put the tabs in there. Those will now function like bookmarks.

But where do those folders appear? Are they still visible in the sidebar? Because the whole purpose of saving those bookmarks, to me, is to remove visual clutter while still having them available when needed.

So the feature you want is to hide bookmarks, because you can just put as many as you want under one folder. The bookmarks exist and you're making it sound like they dont.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by satysin » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:57 PM UTC

dbcooper wrote: post #78

Anyone tried Kagi's WebKit based browser? https://browser.kagi.com/

I've not heard of this before so just checked it out. Looks quite nice. Amusingly this Orion browser has a far more slick and user friendly first run experience than Arc which is a huge complaint I've had about Arc.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

#98

Post by presbyterian » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:59 PM UTC

_Parfait_ wrote: post #96

presbyterian wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But where do those folders appear? Are they still visible in the sidebar? Because the whole purpose of saving those bookmarks, to me, is to remove visual clutter while still having them available when needed.

So the feature you want is to hide bookmarks, because you can just put as many as you want under one folder. The bookmarks exist and you're making it sound like they dont.

I'm not making it sound like they don't, the bookmarks feature as it exists in every other major browser, doesn't exist in Arc, as this thread has affirmed for me. That's fine, if that's how they want their browser to work, but it makes it incompatible with how I use a browser, which is why I was asking if that had changed or not.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by JohnFen » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 5:01 PM UTC

1123581321 wrote: post #86

distortedsignal wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is the Ouroboros of curiosity - discovery, investigation, disappointment, amnesia. If it doesn't catch, we don't really remember it. This seems very human.

I'm like that with a couple of hole-in-the-wall restaurants in the area that people hype, but aren't actually good. I forget their names and visit every few years.

I've watched Prometheus three times because of this. I keep forgetting not only that I've seen it, but that it's awful.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by ihattendorf » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 5:05 PM UTC

fnfjfk wrote: post #88

Sebastian_09 wrote: post #18

it isn't mentioned anywhere but it's chromium based — which is of course is practical, but I wonder how dependent on Google that makes them and other browsers using it

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but why is this practical? It’s a Mac app, WebKit already ships with the OS and can be easily used with WKWebView. Bundling Chrome is a much bigger app size and much more complicated build setup than importing a class that ships with Cocoa.

Practical because they're also working on adding Windows support. Although it sounds like they're writing everything in SwiftUI and trying to port most of the Swift code to run on Windows? So not necessarily the most practical approach there either.