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Re: Docuseal: Open-source DocuSign alternative

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Post by wintermutestwin »

somery wrote: post #11

Hi everyone, my name is Alex and I'm the creator of DocuSeal. I was not happy with the existing mainstream document signing solutions so I decided to create an open-source alternative. I've been working on this project since the middle of May and here is what the tool can do so far: - PDF form fields builder - 10 field types available (Signature/Date/File/Checkbox etc) - Multiple submitters per document - Automated e…

I am involved with two nonprofits that need to have an easy way to get many non-technical people to sign a document. Each is paying for their own DocuSign account. The thing is, they only need to do 6-12 documents per year each, so the cost per document is insane.

Testing it now with fingers crossed and hoping that the cloud version sticks around.

Re: Docuseal: Open-source DocuSign alternative

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Post by V__ »

somery wrote: post #11

Hi everyone, my name is Alex and I'm the creator of DocuSeal. I was not happy with the existing mainstream document signing solutions so I decided to create an open-source alternative. I've been working on this project since the middle of May and here is what the tool can do so far: - PDF form fields builder - 10 field types available (Signature/Date/File/Checkbox etc) - Multiple submitters per document - Automated e…

This looks great. What's the best way to contribute a translation?

I think a great feature would be an email with a confirmation link after the pdf gets signed to ensure the owner of the email was the person who signed the document, if the link share option is used.

Re: Docuseal: Open-source DocuSign alternative

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Post by _jal »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #9
reisr3 wrote: post #5

What is the bar for a "legally binding digital signature"? Is this a very complicated topic - or is it quite simple? I can sign a PDF with OSX Preview for free. I can pay a bunch of money to sign with Docusign. Both produce a PDF with a digital image of my signature. I assume both documents constitute a legally binding agreement, so long as I actually preformed the digital signature. What justification do the e-signa…

> What justification do the e-signature SaaS companies have for their exorbitant prices? They will defend their digital signature in court. I was shocked to find these "click here to sign" contracts manage to do it all without an ounce of cryptography, but the fact is lawyers don't need cold hard math, they need a warm body to be a subject matter expert to explain to a jury that unless you're claiming someone else ha…

Like anything, but especially in law, the devil is in the details. Docusign has been rejected by a court before -

https://www.cryptomathic.com/news-events/blog/us-court-rejec...

That was fact-specific and doesn't call Docusign invalid, but it does demonstrate why simply "using Docusign" might not save you in a dispute.

Re: Docuseal: Open-source DocuSign alternative

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Post by wintermutestwin »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #91
somery wrote: post #11

Hi everyone, my name is Alex and I'm the creator of DocuSeal. I was not happy with the existing mainstream document signing solutions so I decided to create an open-source alternative. I've been working on this project since the middle of May and here is what the tool can do so far: - PDF form fields builder - 10 field types available (Signature/Date/File/Checkbox etc) - Multiple submitters per document - Automated e…

I am involved with two nonprofits that need to have an easy way to get many non-technical people to sign a document. Each is paying for their own DocuSign account. The thing is, they only need to do 6-12 documents per year each, so the cost per document is insane. Testing it now with fingers crossed and hoping that the cloud version sticks around.

Darn. I created a document, setup the info for three sigs, added the recipients emails and then it was unclear how to push it out. I guessed at "Submit it yourself," which required me to add my email so I used the first recipient's and then it opens the doc for me to fill out. It asks for full name and then when I submit, "next" just keeps spinning. FWIW, I am running FireFox with UBO, etc.

This is really important to me, so I'd be glad to work with you to troubleshoot and provide detailed user feedback.

Re: Docuseal: Open-source DocuSign alternative

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Post by ooterness »

dboreham wrote: post #74
hkhanna wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the tough things about a party-controlled, self-hosted e-signature is that it becomes easier to repudiate because a party to the contract has custody of the platform. The non-custodial party can claim they never signed, and when the custodial party produces evidence of IP address and timestamp, the non-custodial party may have a credible argument that they are faked and the person asserting those authenticated…

If only someone would invent a public nonrepudiatable ledger.

Like a chain of blocks? Where each block is signed by adding a prefix that produces an increasingly difficult hash?

Re: Docuseal: Open-source DocuSign alternative

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Post by saqadri »

Just today I was forced by Docusign to pay $45/user/mo in order to continue using the service for a single document I had to send out for signatures. Seeing this pop up on HN right after feels really nice. The cloud-hosted version seems to be very simple to use, so nice job on this.

Like some of the other comments pointed out, the key element here is trust -- in the 3rd-party platform collecting signatures, and in the confidence that it cannot be manipulated. These are solvable challenges, but calling that out explicitly in your documentation and website copy will help convert skeptics, or at least convince them to give it a try.

Re: Docuseal: Open-source DocuSign alternative

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Post by wintermutestwin »

somery wrote: post #12
arnley wrote: post #7

What makes docuseal better than documenso, which is in the same space and also open source? https://github.com/documenso/documenso

Documenso doesn't have all the features that are currently available at DocuSeal - also Docuseal if free in the Cloud when Documenso is $30/month Afaik the only thing Documenso can do is to place a signature - when with Docuseal it's possible to create more complex PDF forms with different field types like file/image/checkbox etc. While Documenso looks like an ambitions project - DocuSeal already appears to be more r…

>Documenso is $30/month

WTF? Considering that DocuSign is $25 or even $10 and has the name and weight behind it, I can't imagine that they are selling many subs.

Re: Docuseal: Open-source DocuSign alternative

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Post by wintermutestwin »

ketanip wrote: post #4

Very nice and easy to use product. Loved that you provided an live version to try it without any signup wall or anything. Also won't DocuSign accuse you of "misleading" their customers by using a name that is "too similar" to their ?

I think the real problem with the name is that there is a docuseal.co

Re: Docuseal: Open-source DocuSign alternative

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Post by wintermutestwin »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #91
somery wrote: post #11

Hi everyone, my name is Alex and I'm the creator of DocuSeal. I was not happy with the existing mainstream document signing solutions so I decided to create an open-source alternative. I've been working on this project since the middle of May and here is what the tool can do so far: - PDF form fields builder - 10 field types available (Signature/Date/File/Checkbox etc) - Multiple submitters per document - Automated e…

I am involved with two nonprofits that need to have an easy way to get many non-technical people to sign a document. Each is paying for their own DocuSign account. The thing is, they only need to do 6-12 documents per year each, so the cost per document is insane. Testing it now with fingers crossed and hoping that the cloud version sticks around.

I was going to try it with Safari, but it didn't recognize the account that I created earlier in FF...
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