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OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
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Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
#92I don't get it. Where's the evidence that these maps are based on OSM data versus, say, Navteq or TeleAtlas data?
The tiles use terrain data that nobody thinks is from OSM, and when I look at North American cities, the street grids certainly don't seem to match any better than you'd expect.
This post sounds pretty confident but they don't explain why.
Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
#93"It’s also missing the necessary credit to OpenStreetMap’s contributors; we look forward to working with Apple to get that on there."
While I think it's quite messed up that a company as rich as Apple can't abide putting credits for people who have put some really good work in (I've even made small updates to OSM in my time) I do think that this is a very classy move by the OSM people, no ranting blog post or 'Apple stole our stuff', welcoming people presents a much better image of the project.
If OpenStreetMap ends up like the KHTML -> WebKit ascendancy then things could be very good for their team in the future.
Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
#94I don't get it. Where's the evidence that these maps are based on OSM data versus, say, Navteq or TeleAtlas data? The tiles use terrain data that nobody thinks is from OSM, and when I look at North American cities, the street grids certainly don't seem to match any better than you'd expect. This post sounds pretty confident but they don't explain why.
Don't read between the lines:
"The new iPhoto for iOS, however, uses Apple’s own map tiles – made from OpenStreetMap data (outside the US)."
Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I think it's quite messed up that a company as rich as Apple can't abide putting credits for people who have put some really good work in (I've even made small updates to OSM in my time) I do think that this is a very classy move by the OSM people, no ranting blog post or 'Apple stole our stuff', welcoming people presents a much better image of the project.
Given the behaviour of Steve Jobs over the years, that attitude is probably embedded in the culture.
If you look in the settings of applications like Pages you'll see a section named Contributions, they list opensource projects they use even for those whose license does not require to be mentioned.
While I'm agree with you that credits must be given where it is due, stretching it to the fact that this behavior would be in their DNA seems not backed up by facts in my point of view.
Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
#96I don't get it. Where's the evidence that these maps are based on OSM data versus, say, Navteq or TeleAtlas data? The tiles use terrain data that nobody thinks is from OSM, and when I look at North American cities, the street grids certainly don't seem to match any better than you'd expect. This post sounds pretty confident but they don't explain why.
One of the pingbacks on that article[1] shows that Apple's tiles have features (like lanes in a parking lot) that is only in OSM data, and that Apple is mis-rendering it.
[1] http://alastaira.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/apple-maps-aka-app...
Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
#97I don't get it. Where's the evidence that these maps are based on OSM data versus, say, Navteq or TeleAtlas data? The tiles use terrain data that nobody thinks is from OSM, and when I look at North American cities, the street grids certainly don't seem to match any better than you'd expect. This post sounds pretty confident but they don't explain why.
Don't read between the lines: "The new iPhoto for iOS, however, uses Apple’s own map tiles – made from OpenStreetMap data (outside the US)."
Ah, thanks -- I missed the (outside the US) bit.
Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
#98Then congratulations Apple, for making a not so great map even worse. I can't really judge map quality in the US, but in Germany it sucks. Cities show up twice or are missing completely, labels are often small, unreadable and ugly. There is no consistency in the placement of lables. OSM has its fair share of inconsistencies but it's not that bad. The map is ok for what it is: Just for presentation inside of iPhoto, n…
Out of curiosity, I made a comparison between the two towns where most of my photos are taken as seen in GMaps vs. OSM. http://cl.ly/133M1H3W2W362S2F0l13 http://cl.ly/2P2d3y042N1T0o2p390H 600k and 60k inhabitants respectively.
As others have noted, Apple seem to be generating their own tiles from OSM data. ArsTechnica has a good screenshot here:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/03/apple-begins-using...
Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Attribution is required by the OSM copyright licence.
I think ElliotH knows that. His point is that OSM is probably going to be more effective publicly welcoming and reminding than throwing a hissyfit, even though they'd be justified in doing so.
Agreed. Apple adopting OSM could be huge for them.
And think about it, everyone who they'd want to know that it is OSM, now knows :-P
Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wondered that too. I don't have the app, but I would bet that Settings > General > About > Legal Notices would be the place to look?
I didn’t find anything. There is just the license agreement in that place which doesn’t seem to make any reference to OSM.
Did you look where (s)he indicated or at the right place? Settings-General-About lists (zillions) of licenses for projects used in iOS itself. If I understand this correctly, this is about the new iPhoto app. The Numbers and Pages apps have an 'Acknowledgements' page in the Settings app. Is that where you looked?