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We spent $20k on Google Play pre-registration ads

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Re: We spent $20k on Google Play pre-registration ads

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Fair point. To Google conversion = someone who has pre-registered. That's different to someone actually installing. I never expected 100% of people who pre-registered would install, but having only 8% of people who pre-register go on to download seems kinda wild. If anyone has any figures for a pre-order campaign on the App Store it would be very interesting to compare the conversion rate.

Hopefully someone with some benchmarks on this specific kind of thing can chime in, but to me it seemed like 8-10% conversion from notification to install was not too terrible. Don’t get me wrong, it sucks that it turned out this way! I’m just basing this on conversion percentages I’ve seen from email launch sequences (maybe 2-5% of the list), webpage conversions (free signup maybe 10,20,50% but paid 1-5%), and 8-10%…

What was painful about pre-registration ads is you don't realise your mistake until you launch your app. Only then do you look at your screen and then go have a cry hahaha.

Be super interesting to read a case study for the App Store and their pre-order ads.

Re: We spent $20k on Google Play pre-registration ads

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Most people are already on their phone when they see your website. Are they supposed to pull out another phone to scan the qr code?

When they're on their phone it'll show a download button instead :-) The QR code only appears on desktop.

Again, what do you gain with inconveniencing the user and adding friction, instead of just taking them to Play Store and letting them install with one click?

Re: We spent $20k on Google Play pre-registration ads

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16,171 converted and pre-registered for the app

1,371 either installed it when they got the push notification or selected auto install when they pre-registered (it's oped in)

Cost was $22k USD ish.

This is extremely normal... it's almost exactly as I would expect, maybe even good! I'm curious why they would expect differently?

Re: We spent $20k on Google Play pre-registration ads

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Just thinking out loud - is there any way to create a profitable Google Ad campaign without sinking thousands of money ramping up and learning? It doesn't appear so.

I haven't fully validated this idea yet, but I ran a Google ad campaign for $5 a day for a mailing list signup page that I was planning a business around. Click through rates were around 2.5%, which seems to be the baseline, i.e. a 2.5% click through rate basically means no engagement. One thing that was interesting, however, is that certain keywords had click through rates around 7%. I wanted to try re-targeting the…

Was this a long time ago, or for a totally empty niche? I ask, because I'm lucky if I can buy a single click through for $5, and it's been like that for several years now.

Re: We spent $20k on Google Play pre-registration ads

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I haven't fully validated this idea yet, but I ran a Google ad campaign for $5 a day for a mailing list signup page that I was planning a business around. Click through rates were around 2.5%, which seems to be the baseline, i.e. a 2.5% click through rate basically means no engagement. One thing that was interesting, however, is that certain keywords had click through rates around 7%. I wanted to try re-targeting the…

Was this a long time ago, or for a totally empty niche? I ask, because I'm lucky if I can buy a single click through for $5, and it's been like that for several years now.

This was a few months ago. I don't think it was totally niche. It was about $1 per click through and I run the campaign for 2 months, which was an accident. I meant to pause a lot sooner.

Re: We spent $20k on Google Play pre-registration ads

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Just thinking out loud - is there any way to create a profitable Google Ad campaign without sinking thousands of money ramping up and learning? It doesn't appear so.

"is there any way to create a profitable Google Ad campaign without sinking thousands of money ramping up and learning?" Yes, it's called hiring an expert with a track record who will get you profitable a lot faster than you probably could yourself (assuming you are inexperienced).

Where do you find these experts? I've tried managing campaigns myself and concluded the same thing you did, but have struggled to find an expert. There are so many people online who claim they can run your campaign but I have a hard time separating the real experts from the "fake it til you make it" types.

Re: We spent $20k on Google Play pre-registration ads

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Is paying $1-3 simply for a click on google ads worth it either? (In my experience, no).

Depends on your conversion rate and customer LTV. Check Mesothelioma ad click rates on Google...

Yep, and what your CPA is.

LTV for a 30 yr mortgage is hundreds of thousands - that pushes for some expensive clicks at auction.

Re: We spent $20k on Google Play pre-registration ads

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post #94

16,171 converted and pre-registered for the app 1,371 either installed it when they got the push notification or selected auto install when they pre-registered (it's oped in) Cost was $22k USD ish. This is extremely normal... it's almost exactly as I would expect, maybe even good! I'm curious why they would expect differently?

I agree with the author's assessment that only 1371 users were actually converted and they were charged inappropriately.
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