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Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by mdaniel »

alustig3 wrote: post #56
duped wrote: post #4

> Slowly add @milk{4%cup} [- TODO change units to litres -], keep mixing No! Handle units! @milk{4%cup} should be trivially convertible to liters and configured by the user. For harder conversions (volume to mass) keeping a list of ingredients and their densities (configurable of course) would be extremely useful. On that subject, being able to specify a recipe in terms of ratios and then automatically convert it to…

sounds like a job for Unitron :) https://github.com/alustig3/unitron

I would suspect teaching Willow (https://github.com/toverainc/willow#readme) to do that would be much more reasonable in a kitchen setup, for the exact reason guhidalg mentioned: who wants to use oil soaked hands to touch something in the kitchen?

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by mdaniel »

tasuki wrote: post #86
soperj wrote: post #84

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Empty? I can't duplicate that for the life of me. There should be a register and login link, or more if you're logged in. A list of recipes would be completely overwhelming way to browse if you're actually looking for something, you can search by any ingredient and get a list of recipes. It's definitely something I'm still working on, but has been very usable.

> Empty? I can't duplicate that for the life of me. My bad. Yes there's the register and login links. I guess I was taken off guard by the hamburger menu redirecting to https://www.reciped.io/links/ and showing the links there. > A list of recipes would be completely overwhelming Well it would be a good way to see how many recipes there are. https://www.reciped.io/search/?search=flour currently lists 4 recipes and 2…

> And I like how you include the nutrition information!

Or rather attempt to? https://www.reciped.io/ingredients/eggs/ says "water 0g energy 0kJ protein 0g fat 0g" which I find just incredibly suspicious. Chasing their citation and then picking the first result for egg ( https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/747997/n... ) says "water 86.3g protein 10.7g", doesn't list a fat, and the energy is in kcal not kJ but is not zero either way

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by soperj »

tasuki wrote: post #86
soperj wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Empty? I can't duplicate that for the life of me. There should be a register and login link, or more if you're logged in. A list of recipes would be completely overwhelming way to browse if you're actually looking for something, you can search by any ingredient and get a list of recipes. It's definitely something I'm still working on, but has been very usable.

> Empty? I can't duplicate that for the life of me. My bad. Yes there's the register and login links. I guess I was taken off guard by the hamburger menu redirecting to https://www.reciped.io/links/ and showing the links there. > A list of recipes would be completely overwhelming Well it would be a good way to see how many recipes there are. https://www.reciped.io/search/?search=flour currently lists 4 recipes and 2…

Thank you for replying! I was trying to duplicate the empty links issue over and over and couldn't figure out anything.

Registering allows you to save recipes & then do meal planning, which creates a saved grocery list for you. I couldn't really figure out a way to do it anonymously without having a list of recipes you wanted to pick from. Drag and drop just seemed easier.

You're right, I definitely need more recipes.

> I don't want to register and record my recipes on your website, because now anyone can alter them.

Anyone can alter them, but realistically it's just for formatting, spelling, or adding a picture. It's like wikipedia where all the edits are saved, so you can just revert any changes.

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by samldev »

thebricklayr wrote: post #89
scary-size wrote: post #81

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Looks promising! I’ll give it a thorough test. Been working on my own recipe clean up tool [1]. Does your app all the scraping and parsing on the client side? [1] https://pretty-recip.es/

Wow, this is awesome! Your layout, subtle dividers, and serifed font really come together perfectly. At the moment, Umami's scraping is done server-side. I'd really like to speed it up, so I'm going to start working on a 100% client scraper soon (for the native apps & browser extensions; the web version will always have cross-domain browser restrictions though).

Umami looks great, I just sent it to my wife who just uses Apple notes for recipes right now. I’m curious, how can you offer it for free while having server side processing / syncing etc?

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by soperj »

mdaniel wrote: post #92
tasuki wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Empty? I can't duplicate that for the life of me. My bad. Yes there's the register and login links. I guess I was taken off guard by the hamburger menu redirecting to https://www.reciped.io/links/ and showing the links there. > A list of recipes would be completely overwhelming Well it would be a good way to see how many recipes there are. https://www.reciped.io/search/?search=flour currently lists 4 recipes and 2…

> And I like how you include the nutrition information! Or rather attempt to? https://www.reciped.io/ingredients/eggs/ says "water 0g energy 0kJ protein 0g fat 0g" which I find just incredibly suspicious. Chasing their citation and then picking the first result for egg ( https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/747997/n... ) says "water 86.3g protein 10.7g", doesn't list a fat, and the energy is in kcal no…

it's based on effort of the users... clearly they just skipped that part. I might try to automate that.

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by thebricklayr »

samldev wrote: post #94
thebricklayr wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, this is awesome! Your layout, subtle dividers, and serifed font really come together perfectly. At the moment, Umami's scraping is done server-side. I'd really like to speed it up, so I'm going to start working on a 100% client scraper soon (for the native apps & browser extensions; the web version will always have cross-domain browser restrictions though).

Umami looks great, I just sent it to my wife who just uses Apple notes for recipes right now. I’m curious, how can you offer it for free while having server side processing / syncing etc?

It's few enough users right now that I can cover the couple bucks per month in server costs. If more people start to use it, I'll make it paid (either upfront or subscription, not sure yet), but I'll grandfather all existing users as free.

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by scary-size »

thebricklayr wrote: post #89
scary-size wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks promising! I’ll give it a thorough test. Been working on my own recipe clean up tool [1]. Does your app all the scraping and parsing on the client side? [1] https://pretty-recip.es/

Wow, this is awesome! Your layout, subtle dividers, and serifed font really come together perfectly. At the moment, Umami's scraping is done server-side. I'd really like to speed it up, so I'm going to start working on a 100% client scraper soon (for the native apps & browser extensions; the web version will always have cross-domain browser restrictions though).

Interesting, does the server fetch the html itself? Or does the client POST it? The letter would be useful for paywalled sites like Cook‘s Illustrated. I spent quite some time on ingredient labelling (what’s a unit, quantity etc.). Feel free to ping at hn[at]franz.hamburg

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by detourdog »

guhidalg wrote: post #87
detourdog wrote: post #77

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Since you seem to know this space. I'm interested in something people must be working on. I want something that is ingredient property oriented. Examples would be starch, antihistamine, and cultural usage. The idea would be a recipe generator the uses taste profiles, food textures, but has no standard ingredients. If one only had taro root for flour all recipes would sub that in...

I'm not aware of a specific service to do what you're describing. The closest I can think of is IBM's Watson demo for recipe creation[1]. Can you tell me more about what you're looking for? CookTime's recipe object modeling is very flexible, maybe I can make what you're looking for in a generic way. [1] - https://researcher.watson.ibm.com/researcher/view_group.php?...

I will check out Watson. I'm really just looking to tag ingredients. I could always create my own tag standards for the what I'm curious about.

I have read through this thread to try to make myself more articulate. I guess I'm thinking of it as an ingredient centered approach. The recipe is secondary to whatever is available. The idea would be the ingredients would have tags for properties. The properties would be the nutritional content, cultural references, mouth feel, taste profile, allergens, ...

The combining of ingredients might have less to do with recipes and more to do with necessities and circumstances.

The flour example is probably the most illustrative. Many grains and roots can be used as flour. If one was using taro root flour all recipes would just accommodate that substitution.

Re: Cooklang – Recipe Markup Language

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Post by brisketbbq »

Just about three weeks ago, I made a fossil repo to keep track of my recipies.

I write them in markdown and use fossil's webserver to be able to access them while in the kitchen. If I need to see ingridents while i'm out, i activate my tailscale VPN on my phone and browse to the fossil webserver.

Thankfully i'm not the only one who has oven-engineered a simple solution.

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