It's pretty simple. If anybody gets money on an Apple device, Apple wants its cut.
Nobody makes money without giving Don Cook his share.
Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature
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Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature
#92It's pretty simple. If anybody gets money on an Apple device, Apple wants its cut. Nobody makes money without giving Don Cook his share.
Did you mean Tim Apple?
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
First they came for the crypto crap, and I did not speak out ... Then they came for me. And with email, the recipient can choose to override the spam filter. That's key, and is the reason that spam filters aren't censorship.
There's a thing some people seem to be unable to understand, and it's that... coming after bad things can be good, actually. The thing about the "first they came" poem is that attacking the socialists, trade unionists and jews is already bad. There's a reason it doesn't start with "first they came for the murderers, but I didn't say anything because I wasn't a murderer". The poem urges us to stand up against injustic…
> There's a thing some people seem to be unable to understand, and it's that... coming after bad things can be good, actually.
Going after bad things can be good, but going after a developer who wants to be tipped in crypto isn't a bad thing. Apple being able to take down an app because it allows the user to monetarily reward a developer in the way the dev chooses *is* a bad thing.
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#94I can't believe the EU, which has fined Microsoft because of having IE as the default browser, is OK with Apple having a total walled garden in iOS. Which by the way only has one "browser", because other browsers are forced to use the safari engine.
Remember: everything you blame Apple of also applies to Sony (Playstation) and Microsoft (Xbox).
Exact same thing.
A phone isn't a "general computing device" like a PC any more than a gaming console is. So if Apple has to allow 3rd party stuff on their phones, it must be so for PS and Xbox too.
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#95Choose one: 1. Full-on libre: speech, financial flows, technical architecture, etc. (i.e., basically the entire raison d'être for Nostr) -or- 2. Live and work inside the walled garden of Apple + Google's app stores You really can't have it both ways.
You can always give people an effective way to sideload applications.
Which will unravel the App Store.
Because the benefits of side loading on iOS are so massive that everyone will use it i.e. you can use private APIs, bypass Apple's privacy controls, implement device tracking, harvest data e.g. contacts.
It's going to be a huge transfer of power and wealth back to the likes of Meta, Epic etc
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#96I can't believe the EU, which has fined Microsoft because of having IE as the default browser, is OK with Apple having a total walled garden in iOS. Which by the way only has one "browser", because other browsers are forced to use the safari engine.
This is missing context: Microsoft made their browser free at a time when Netscape cost $49. Apple giving away Safari for free at a time when all major web browsers are free is different. Sure, Apple might benefit from being the default but Spotify and Pandora, which compete with Apple Music, are both still in Apple's app store.
The context you're missing is that Apple doesn't allow any third-party browser engines on iOS for "security".
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
The EU isn't like the US. This law will stay in effect during any court proceedings.
Coming to the conclusion that something can't happen because there exists a law that forbids it seems like it requires some faith in a system that I'm not willing to accept.
Unlike a lot of antitrust action I see, the DMA has teeth. Up to 20% of global revenue per infraction. I'm not worried Apple is going to give up the entire market, and I know that that fine is enough to force compliance. So yes, I have a lot of faith in this system.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a thing some people seem to be unable to understand, and it's that... coming after bad things can be good, actually. The thing about the "first they came" poem is that attacking the socialists, trade unionists and jews is already bad. There's a reason it doesn't start with "first they came for the murderers, but I didn't say anything because I wasn't a murderer". The poem urges us to stand up against injustic…
> There's a thing some people seem to be unable to understand, and it's that... coming after bad things can be good, actually. Going after bad things can be good, but going after a developer who wants to be tipped in crypto isn't a bad thing. Apple being able to take down an app because it allows the user to monetarily reward a developer in the way the dev chooses *is* a bad thing.
> allows the user to monetarily reward a developer in the way the dev chooses is a bad thing
I honestly don't believe anyone can argue this in good faith. First off it's not user->developer but user->user and second "the way the dev [or user] chooses" is just silly. At the end of the day people want fiat currencies, Bitcoin (or any other crypto) in this case is clearly meant as a way to bypass the app store cut. It's not because "they really wanted bitcoin", no, they wanted a loophole. We can argue about if Apple/Google deserve 30% but pretending people actually want crypto for any reason other than avoid rules/regulations is silly.
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It really isn't, because if you either don't trust the sender or the shipping company, then your real issue is that the shipment or its contents get stolen, not that the shipping information is wrong. Once again, crypto is trying to solve problems that don't actually exist while completely failing to address the ones that do.
> then your real issue is that the shipment or its contents get stolen No, the chain-of-provenance use-case is to prevent people from being able to sell grey-market products while claiming that they're official products. E.g. selling iPhones built out of reconstituted parts from iPhones that were pickpocketed from their owners and then scrapped for parts. (Yes, this is a big issue — Google "my stolen phone ended up i…
Blockchain doesn't solve any of that. It's just coming back to the oracle issue. I still have to trust people putting stuff into the chain, and I don't have any reason to just because you say blockchain.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can always give people an effective way to sideload applications.
Which will unravel the App Store. Because the benefits of side loading on iOS are so massive that everyone will use it i.e. you can use private APIs, bypass Apple's privacy controls, implement device tracking, harvest data e.g. contacts. It's going to be a huge transfer of power and wealth back to the likes of Meta, Epic etc
Such is life. We should work to mitigate as much of this as possible, but not having sideloading should not be in the realm of possibilities.
(Yes, I'm aware of the workarounds. Those are not reasonable solutions.)