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Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by GrooveSAN »

InvaderFizz wrote: post #33

Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

> I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water.

Interesting. I like to keep that excess oil/water, as that extra moisture on the surface of the popcorns later helps the sugar/salt stick to it - without the need for additional butter/grease.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by hosteur »

askvictor wrote: post #89
InvaderFizz wrote: post #33

Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

Out of interest, why do you prefer a salt grinder? I've never understood why these exist. Pepper grinders, absolutely - the aromatics are released on grinding. By not so with salt. Curious if I'm missing something.

For pop corn you need fine grained salt. A grinder lets you control that. It is only about the grain sizes. Nothing about freshness with salt. With pepper it is about freshly releases aromatics.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by jakogut »

askvictor wrote: post #89
InvaderFizz wrote: post #33

Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

Out of interest, why do you prefer a salt grinder? I've never understood why these exist. Pepper grinders, absolutely - the aromatics are released on grinding. By not so with salt. Curious if I'm missing something.

I also don't use salt grinders, preferring coarse salt like Kosher or coarse sea salt on most dishes. However, to play Devil's advocate, a grinder is adjustable between fine and coarse.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by fbdab103 »

eadler wrote: post #12

The article does not cite or link to the study. > The researchers found that people who ate microwave popcorn every day over the course of a year had levels of PFAS that were up to 63% higher than average. As far as I could tell the relevant study [1] merely finds association rather than causation. This is often the best you can do in the nutrition field though. I have not yet read through the entire contents. [1] He…

>...that were up to 63% higher than average

"Up to" can cover a lot of sins. Does that mean one person had 63% higher than normal and the median daily-popcorn eater was 10% higher?

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by mock-possum »

vel0city wrote: post #20
leetrout wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The microwaved popcorn is much crisper. Really surprised me. Not that the whirlypopper is a lot of work but the microwave is even quicker since there is little mess.

Cool, I was wondering if there were any similar health concerns I wasn't thinking of with the comment. Not that eating popcorn is exactly a healthy choice. I've been looking into alternative popcorn popping ideas and friends have given great reviews (and great samples over the years :) ) of the whirlypop so I've been considering that along with an airpopper. I'll give that paper bag trick a try sometime, thanks!

Actually might be healthier because it’s not fried in hot oil, only flavoured with warm oil at the end.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by Blackthorn »

xk_id wrote: post #64
soligern wrote: post #53

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That’s way too much work. Buy big bag of organic Amish baby corn. Buy a silicone popcorn maker. Toss a handful of popcorn in with some olive oil. Microwave for 3.5 minutes or until you hear only 2 pops a second. Sprinkle with salt. Done. Also a $20 bag will probably make more than a hundred bowls.

I was just about to post about the silicone popcorn makers. They’re amazingly practical, I’m super happy with mine, and I’m pretty sure it can’t get any easier than that. Some risk of burning your popcorn tho as the window between “most kernels popped” and “burnt” is relatively short, so until you figure out the correct timings for your microwave’s power, watch your fire alarms.

It does get easier: air popper. No burning to worry about, works perfectly every time.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by alvarezbjm-hn »

gretch wrote: post #79
hombre_fatal wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even double blinded randomized cross over trials only shows associations. That doesn’t mean you can’t make reasonable casual inferences after looking at the balance of evidence. Else we couldn’t even infer that smoking causes cancer, something most people have to bite the bullet on when they denounce nutrition science.

? You can show causation by having a test group and a control group. Just get N people. Have the control group eat pot cooked popcorn and have the experimental group eat microwave. You can’t get causation by just observing, but once you are willing to make someone do something, then it’s pretty easy to arrive at. I tried to verify the GP quote but actually couldn’t find it in the study - but if it’s true, people who…

Who is going to fund a study designed to find causation of high pfas blood levels?

The corn producers, the microwave popcorn brands? If any of them ever does, be sure that the study will either find no proof of causation or not be published

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by jay_kyburz »

gretch wrote: post #79
hombre_fatal wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even double blinded randomized cross over trials only shows associations. That doesn’t mean you can’t make reasonable casual inferences after looking at the balance of evidence. Else we couldn’t even infer that smoking causes cancer, something most people have to bite the bullet on when they denounce nutrition science.

? You can show causation by having a test group and a control group. Just get N people. Have the control group eat pot cooked popcorn and have the experimental group eat microwave. You can’t get causation by just observing, but once you are willing to make someone do something, then it’s pretty easy to arrive at. I tried to verify the GP quote but actually couldn’t find it in the study - but if it’s true, people who…

You also have to have the control group eat every other meal the same as the study.

The first thing that comes to my mind if you are eating microwave popcorn every day, what other junk foods are you eating every day?

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by fbdab103 »

PaywallBuster wrote: post #74
londons_explore wrote: post #63

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Did OP make an affiliate link just to earn a few bucks from HN'ers? If so, I suspect there are better uses for their time...

He could get commission from any sales in the next 30 days not just this 11$ product

30 days?! That seems shockingly generous for Amazon. What happens when someone has a handful of overlapping affiliate clicks? Do the referrers all split the pool or most-recent wins?
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