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Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Enclosure

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Re: Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Enclosure

#93
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Great that in some months there will be a high-end laptop that you don't have to throw in the garbage bin once a ram chip fries. High expectations.

My definition of “high end” in 2023 is a battery that last 14+ hours of general use, doesn’t sound like a 747 when I open two Chrome tabs side by side and won’t fry my nuts when I put it on my lap.

Fullack. Returned my framework laptop because of 3 hours battery life (streaming Netflix, measured multiple times), the 747 sound (customer support told me "works as expected"), and if I want to fry eggs I have other devices for that. I'd say "there's room for improvement".

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Enclosure

#95
post #13

Still waiting for the other shoe to drop with a pricing announcement. I keep getting almost excited about the Framework 16", but then I'm remember it's probably going to be well over $2500USD for a decently specced model (without a GPU even) and my excitement quickly dissipates.

Sure, the initial upfront cost will be high. But I think that the trade off in the longer term will be worth it.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Enclosure

#96
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They probably insert the same and known to work: storage, ram, etc. see if everything works, then remove them and insert them into the next model. The storage and ram you receive are pre-packaged and were QA-ed separately. It makes perfect sense, really.

Yep, this is correct. The memory, storage, Input Cover, and Bezel are "turn parts" that temporarily carry along the manufacturing line on each DIY Edition unit so that the system can go through the full set of manual and automated testing and quality control. The modules you receive in a DIY Edition shipment are actually totally separate modules specific to your order that are also independently tested and packed out…

Interesting! This was not communicated in the recent Linux video. He made it seem it was disassembled and then those exact parts boxed up.

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#97
post #92

Given the whole idea here is total user freedom for ports and I/O expandability, it bothers me that I cannot get this with an SD card slot, a feature that comes standard on newer macbook pros.

They do have microSD, at least[0]. I feel like full-size SD cards are a bit more niche than they used to be (mostly DSLRs?). But there's no stopping someone designing and manufacturing a full-size SD card reader if there's enough demand to warrant it.

[0] https://frame.work/products/microsd-expansion-card

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#98
post #24

Give it a trackpoint and it's mine!

System76 might be willing to collaborate on this. They are designing a trackpoint into their upcoming in-house laptop, and they make open hardware.

That's good to hear! Maybe they'll take cue from TEX[0] and source their TP modules from Lenovo, so that they feel the same.

[0]https://tex.com.tw

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#99

I like the self repair options, but the attachments are just dongles in another form factor

If you prefer, you can glue them into place and then they're just fixed, unchangeable ports. That would be incredibly silly to do, but if you're so against the idea of something that can be swapped out...

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#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a cost to buying machines that are sustainable and use well paid workers, just like there's a cost to cage free eggs. I believe Foxconn, the main assembler for Apple, still sleeps 6 workers to an apartment.

> I believe Foxconn, the main assembler for Apple, still sleeps 6 workers to an apartment. The thing is, if Chinese labor becomes more expensive, these workers will get replaced either by an automated factory elsewhere (maybe in America!) and unemployment.

Considering how we're talking about a manufacturer that famously installed anti-suicide nets for it's worker, maybe some time away from the factory would be a good thing?
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