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The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

#91

The worst is when you are trying to escape the hustle and changing your attitude to take it at your own pace at work but there is that one team member that buys into the hustle culture, sending emails at night, ticking things off their check list like their life depended on it, promoting the race to the bottom.

Why is the existence of that team member a problem? You don't have to read the emails until the start of the workday no matter when they send them.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

#92
post #55

> I’m not against hustle, but when the hustle becomes an end in-and-of-itself, rather than a means to an end, that is alarming. Is it possible to hustle all the time & not burn out? Yes, but it takes a special type of person who values the hustle, in and of itself, which is rare. It's important to realize that there's no right or wrong with what you choose to value. And, as an employee, changing your org's values is…

> Instead, get clear on what your values are. Then, find an environment where you're surrounded with people who share your values.

This cannot be overstated.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

#93

Why are we sprinting? To win. The business world is Darwinian. Sit back and relax, and someone else who is more motivated will eat your lunch. Why do we want to win? To make money so we can have what we want. If you don't feel like you're getting somewhere, maybe you're applying force to the ground in the wrong way.

What you say is true in many parts of the business world. But not all of them.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

#94
post #3

There comes a time in everyone's career when they realize that the "emergency situation" they are in never really ends. There is always a fire to put out. There is always a P0 bug that will sink the entire company if not fixed. There is always a release that absolutely cannot be delayed for any reason, and everyone must work nights and weekends to get it out. The best you can do is learn to tune out management bullsh…

This in and of itself is the problem When every system is *critical system for somebody* and the downtime means loss of capacity, then people are actually hurt, and there are real problems when these things do go down. So you become numb, like a triage nurse, to real suffering because you’re in a system that doesn’t actually give people the resources to fix these things. Most of the harms in the world are when large…

Have you ever read The Machine Stops? You might find it enjoyable.

https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/th...

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

#95

Why are we sprinting? To win. The business world is Darwinian. Sit back and relax, and someone else who is more motivated will eat your lunch. Why do we want to win? To make money so we can have what we want. If you don't feel like you're getting somewhere, maybe you're applying force to the ground in the wrong way.

Slow and steady wins the race, and the majority of startups fail.

I agree that a balance needs to be struck and something needs to be done, but I'd favor a healthy cadence for my team than have them burn out and quit, leaving me holding the bag.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

#96
post #3

There comes a time in everyone's career when they realize that the "emergency situation" they are in never really ends. There is always a fire to put out. There is always a P0 bug that will sink the entire company if not fixed. There is always a release that absolutely cannot be delayed for any reason, and everyone must work nights and weekends to get it out. The best you can do is learn to tune out management bullsh…

Reminds me of national politics

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

#98

As far as I'm concerned, it always was and always shall be "work faster or die". I was unaware that we were given a third choice?

There is a third option that most people don’t seem to know about, which is to slow down to speed up. I find there are many instances where if I slow down I not only accomplish more, but the things I work on are more important. It can be really hard to get in this mindset, and even harder to know if you need to actually be putting in more effort/hours. But by and large, taking breaks and getting enough sleep can actually be a superpower.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

#99
post #80
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that really is super dependent on your workplace, and probably your field. In higher education, I can tell you, they do not value diversity of opinion, but they get it in spades. Every decision is questioned, argued, analyzed, and beat to death. Leadership hates it, but I love it. It's one of the closest environments to that 'value diversity of opinion' statement that I've ever been a part of.

Maybe this is why nothing ever gets done in higher ed.

That may be part of it, but I think the main reason is that higher ed is process-oriented to a fault.

You need five people to sign off on what you're doing, and John is out until next Tuesday, so he can't sign it. When he gets back, he notices that Christine missed something on the form, so he waits five days and kicks it back. Repeat this until you give up.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

#100

I was recently berated and given negative performance ratings for rolling something out 2 weeks late. The reason I rolled it out 2 weeks late was because we were in holiday season and the company CTO had asked people to exercise caution during holidays. But lo and behold, my management didn't like that I was cautious. They gave me a negative rating. I asked, "Why was the 2 weeks so important? Are there any customers…

I hope you left that place in a hurry. And told them why. What an idiocy.

> And told them why

I didn't tell them directly since I knew I was being targeted. But I left breadcrumbs of truth within the team so that next time, someone else identifies this same pattern and calls them out again.

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