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French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Post by zirgs »

yieldcrv wrote: post #45
conradfr wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yesterday the French government dissolved an environmental movement (which I don't like btw), amongst the reasons stated[0] are that they leave their phones at home or switch them off, refuse to talk to the police when arrested, or even that they organize their protest over the internet. When accused of authoritarian tendencies the government usually answers "go to China or North Korea to see what a dictatorship is l…

I was thinking about an uber or courier service that takes your phone for a walk Pretty much relying on the assumption that investigators will find stationary phones suspicious when they spy on you Could put them in those charging lockboxes seen as airports and festivals, the infrastructure is already there Guess I’ll market it to climate activists in europe lol edit: maybe those delivery robots are even better couri…

Can you fake it with an app somehow instead?

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Post by bluescrn »

lannisterstark wrote: post #66
getrealal wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. But this is not exactly new. The Macron government is now using "anti-terror" legislation that was passed by both left and right-wing governments over the past 20 years or so.

I'm really curious as to why Macron govt is looked up to by a lot of Americans. American citizens, with all of the country's flaws, tends to have a lot more inherent civil rights than most of these governments.

Fear leads to support for authoritarianism. Covid, climate, nuclear war, economic uncertainty, etc.

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Post by heywhatupboys »

sofixa wrote: post #18
nestorD wrote: post #6

The key is that, while there is suspicion (the people arrested have a far left ideology, have been to Syria to fight against the Islamic state, own weapons and encrypt all of their communications), there is no crime nor proof of an intent to commit a crime . These people have been sent to prison because they are suspicious, not because of an action they have done (something made possible as a special case of an older…

The law doesn't say being suspicious is criminal, but that organising with the intent to commit terrorism is, and that's what the prosecutor's will have to prove. The real, actual problem is the unlawful detention. > And, amongst other things, using Signal and Linux with the encryption-on settings are explicitly listed as some of the things making them suspicious in the eyes of the law. In combination with other thin…

> The real, actual problem is the unlawful detention.

how is this defined?

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Post by marvin »

bambax wrote: post #58
conradfr wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yesterday the French government dissolved an environmental movement (which I don't like btw), amongst the reasons stated[0] are that they leave their phones at home or switch them off, refuse to talk to the police when arrested, or even that they organize their protest over the internet. When accused of authoritarian tendencies the government usually answers "go to China or North Korea to see what a dictatorship is l…

The situation in France is dire and crazy. This will not end well.

I have had well-educated French acquaintences telling me for a decade that France is ripe for a new system of government; the 6th in its history.

Many current problems stem from the fact that post-war mechanisms written into the governmental system are abused by the president and elected leaders. E.g. presidential overruling of parlamental votes.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Post by explorer83 »

lannisterstark wrote: post #66
getrealal wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. But this is not exactly new. The Macron government is now using "anti-terror" legislation that was passed by both left and right-wing governments over the past 20 years or so.

I'm really curious as to why Macron govt is looked up to by a lot of Americans. American citizens, with all of the country's flaws, tends to have a lot more inherent civil rights than most of these governments.

I think France is generally perceived here to have more progressive social policies regarding labor, education, healthcare and the environment. The limited media coverage I've seen about French elections seemed to paint Macron as the candidate more representative of those values.

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Post by derkades »

pndy wrote: post #41
Krisjohn wrote: post #34

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I must say I spluttered a bit at F-Droid.

uBlock Origin itself gave me oh what the fuck reaction but seems its gone now; text has been fixed already. No information on time of the edit was provided.

I still see it
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