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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by goykasi »

danpalmer wrote: post #78
popey wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used Power Delete Suite to remove all comments from all public and private subs. They all came back today. So I re-deleted them again. I suspect it's more likely the site didn't process the deletions properly, rather than maliciously bringing them back, or as you suggest, that they were private. Edit: It's possible that the deletion only worked on public posts, after all, it seems?

Absolutely this. I highly doubt Reddit would want to fuck this up at this point for seemingly minimal gain. Much more likely that a 10x increase in deletions caused some pipeline to collapse somewhere.

I can see this starting a positive feedback loop of issues. More people get upset; so more people start deleting -- cascading failures start occurring. Hopefully their team can keep it under control.

But would the current upset userbase even believe reddit if they came out and said "our deletes arent working right now. please try again later."

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by tazjin »

bombcar wrote: post #47
fabian2k wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your Reddit posts are not personal data. Okay, you can probably get specific ones removed that way where you explicitly include personal data. But this doesn't mean that you have a right to delete all content you write anywhere.

It's a weird interaction with Section 230 if Reddit can say "these posts are not ours, they are the posters" and yet the poster cannot edit/delete them. Of course, HN itself kills your edit window after a certain time limit, so there is some legal way of doing it, I assume.

HN also has a prominent FAQ entry about this where they say they will help you with deletion requests for personal information if you email them.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by Havoc »

That’s wild given that their reddiquette doc specific says the precise opposite

> Repost deleted/removed information. Remember that comment someone just deleted because it had personal information in it or was a picture of gore? Resist the urge to repost it. It doesn't matter what the content was. If it was deleted/removed, it should stay deleted/removed.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by seanalltogether »

llm_nerd wrote: post #12

Hanlon's razor. Anyone who has used Reddit for any period of time (or basically any similar site, which includes FB, Twitter, and even HN), has seen data consistency issues during high load (like periods of activism). Shards die or fall out of quorum, work queues get purged, etc. That's the reality of systems with a lot of very low value data. Eventually consistent, but also perpetually inconsistent.

Yeah people are going into overdrive right now with speculating all the bad things reddit is doing. Someone claimed that reddit admins had taken over their local city's subreddit to install new mods, as if that was a priority for them right now.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by boomboomsubban »

popey wrote: post #37
scandinavian wrote: post #23

I really think they are just misunderstanding something. When I look at my profile, there's no comments, but I know there should be some. Isn't it more likely that when a subreddit you posted in goes private, the comments don't show up. The people in the linked thread ran the delete script after some subreddits went private. Now when some are made public again, so are their comments. Comments that were never deleted…

I used Power Delete Suite to remove all comments from all public and private subs. They all came back today. So I re-deleted them again. I suspect it's more likely the site didn't process the deletions properly, rather than maliciously bringing them back, or as you suggest, that they were private. Edit: It's possible that the deletion only worked on public posts, after all, it seems?

Reading about Power Delete Suite https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

They don't mention being able to delete from private subs, and their method of deletion sounds like it would fail when the subs are set to private.

I'll admit Reddit barely deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point, but I have no idea how you would delete posts on private subs except through some GDPR way that must exist.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by sebstefan »

josu wrote: post #50
nik736 wrote: post #3

This is crazy! I like the following comment on kbin: > I said it before and I say it again: if you have the patience to do so then make sure you overwrite your content with chatgpt generated content, as the future AI that will feed on your post HATE feeding on already AI generated stuff. It makes the AI diverge. People should not be deleting their posts but actually just replacing them with random AI generated conten…

That is what this extension does: https://github.com/sr33/ares It hasn't been maintained in a while, but I can confirm that it still works. EDIT: Here is another alternative. I haven't used this one myself but it seems legit: https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

ares isn't on the firefox store anymore and PowerDeleteSuite gets responses that are "success: false" 99% of the time because it doesn't fit the throttling they have very well so it leaves huge gaps of un-edited posts in your history

Ares can be installed manually but the building process has a few holes, namely, you need to rollback your node version to 13.14.0 and it's not mentioned in the readme. You can use nvm to do that (nvm install 13.14.0 && nvm use 13.14.0), then the normal stuff (npm install && npm run build)

I looked for a reddit history editor a while back and found those two as well, it's sad it's hard to make them work unless your account happens to have the throttle it expects

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by bennyp101 »

red75prime wrote: post #38
drcongo wrote: post #15

Every European Reddit user should put in a full GDPR data request.

And they will get a reasonable answer that reddit doesn't store personal information beyond what it needs to operate. It's technically impossible to identify correct personal information in users' posts.

I don't see how they can argue that they own the data, and then turn around and say they have no way of making sure there is no PII - if a user thinks that a comment or post contains their PII and delete it, then either the user owns it or reddit needs to respect that is was deleted for that reason

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by notimetorelax »

kvdveer wrote: post #81
m-p-3 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt that is GDPR-compliant.

A 30-day lag in deletion is compliant IF you communicate that that's what you do (i.e. write that down in your privacy policy).

Yes, but after that there should be a wipeout.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by vidanay »

theRBII wrote: post #80
Pyramus wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, check GDPR Article 4 (1): personal data means any information relating to an identified or identifiable person. The content of a post is not personal data (in general) but the things like user name etc are. The content is not relating to an identifiable person (in general) while the user name is. Shakespeare's poems are not personal data.

Depends on the content - not many people out there are directly doxxing themselves but indirectly? Maybe. From my post history on Reddit, you'd know where I live, my age, gender, job, relationship status and a good amount about places I've been and my interests. There are already websites that collate that info from a profile to give a summary of the user. Under GDPR, that quite possibly adds up to personal data rela…

And when this is combined with Facebook/Google/Apple/Microsoft shadow profiles, it's an almost certain guarantee that information is linked with your name, DOB, credit info, and tax ID number.
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