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Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

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Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#91

The people scared of the AI doom are so funny to me because the idea is highly speculative, when there's climate change happening under our noses and nobody says we should stop anything...

People have reasonable concerns about AI blowback. That doesn't mean they are doomsayers, or "scared".

Yud is most definitely a doomsayer.

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#92
The call to "Pause AI dev!" reminds me of the COVID-era call to "flatten the curve!".

It sounds reasonable, and if it was possible to do, might be effective.

But it's absolutely not possible after a certain point, and that point is past.

The people who don't realize that just look silly, or they have an agenda.

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#93

Palantir is a criminal organization that should have their corporate charter dissolved. Re-posting what their CEO says is enabling them. And there's especially no reason to listen to them on the topic of machine learning. I agree there's no reason to "pause" anything but it's just a broken clock being right twice per day.

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." and "Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#94

The people scared of the AI doom are so funny to me because the idea is highly speculative, when there's climate change happening under our noses and nobody says we should stop anything...

> nobody says we should stop anything...

About climate change..? It doesn't serve your argument to so blatently misrepresent reality.

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#95

I am in general unconcerned with AI risks. However, AI should be permanently banned from use in war. There is no good that can come from this.

I don’t understand HN sometimes. Why is your comment being downvoted? As other comments are pointing out, it is practically very hard to ban anything when nation governments are the ones doing the very thing that much of humanity would like to ban - AI in warfare, in this case.

Does that mean we can’t talk about it or raise questions? After all, it is hard to prevent nations acquiring nuclear weapons too, but there is a tremendous amount of effort spent trying, isn’t it?

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#96
post #93

Palantir is a criminal organization that should have their corporate charter dissolved. Re-posting what their CEO says is enabling them. And there's especially no reason to listen to them on the topic of machine learning. I agree there's no reason to "pause" anything but it's just a broken clock being right twice per day.

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." and "Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

The fact that Palantir is a criminal organization is plainly true and certainly substantive.

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#97

The people scared of the AI doom are so funny to me because the idea is highly speculative, when there's climate change happening under our noses and nobody says we should stop anything...

Palantir's AI calculated this comment to be the ideal way to derail this conversation.

1. This article has nothing to do with climate change, so why is such a comment the top reply?

2. "nobody says we should stop anything [to address climate change]" is a flagrant lie. You guys are being baited.

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anduril is hiring, for anybody looking, there are lots of positions all over the globe, all skillsets - https://jobs.lever.co/anduril/ edit: there were some interesting responses, but it seems HN has pruned the entire comment chain. i'd like to encourage others to consider whether censorship is necessary in adult spaces, especially HN - i did not ask to be insulated from criticism. critical comments are a chance to h…

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I don't know, but I imagine - for the right target in the right situation - it would feel pretty good.

George Orwell put it best: People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#99

Somewhat off-topic, but this puzzles me to no end: How come Peter Thiel, an outspoken libertarian, becomes a government contractor, doing data collection and analysis for spying and surveillance on the masses? Like isn’t that what libertarians warn against all the time?

Libertarians love government contracting. The less the government does themselves, and contract out to corporations instead, the happier libertarians are. Many libertarians even want to abolish the US Postal System so that even that work can be contracted out to corporations.

These kind of libertarians are all about "economic liberty", e.g. unfettering and deregulating corporations. They care little for individual liberties; a surveillance police state administered by corporations is right up their alley. In their view, the problem with the Stasi is the Stasi wasn't a for-profit corporation, and was consequently inefficient at what they did.

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

#100

The people scared of the AI doom are so funny to me because the idea is highly speculative, when there's climate change happening under our noses and nobody says we should stop anything...

Not comparable at all. I’m not afraid of AI, thinks it’s a lot of marketting on OpenAIs part, but climate change is a trend not something you don’t see one day and then the next day everything’s different.
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