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Re: Intravenous Caffeine

#91
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I experience a chalky scent from high dose caffeine pills. I don’t think the taste is unique to the intravenous caffeine.

Same, and on occasion I have had coffee do the same. That's if I'm reading this correctly and you're describing the smell in your blood?

I assume so, either that or its neurological. Its like the scent comes from inside my head.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

#92
post #66

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Not a dentist, but I think it's the acid that causes tooth decay. Microbes create the acid from dissolved sugar in your mouth. The question is whether coffee is acidic enough to do damage even without the sugar.

I believe the common theory is not the coffee acidity on its own, but the habits around it. People often drink coffee slowly and without a straw, this leads to staining but not tooth decay. However the slow part contributes to the teeth not getting a chance to neutralize acidity normally. This gets worse when people then brush their teeth after their morning coffee to prevent bad breath, which the abrasiveness combin…

You can have your espresso standing up at the café's bar like an authentic southern European and avoid the problem? Sounds great! :D

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

#93
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At a meeting where Electronic Medical Records was on the agenda, I happened to have been sitting next to a manager involved with that and joked about that you can't take ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code T43.616A ( Underdosing of caffeine, initial encounter https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/S00-T88/T36-T50/T43/... ) to Starbucks with a prescription. He chuckled a bit and told a tale of when he actually had that show up…

> added one cup of coffee caffeine equivalent to his IV.

> The IV was much more than the cup of coffee

To be clear you mean about same concentration i.e 100mg but higher absorption?

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

#94

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> Dunno what would happen if I asked for one outright... Nowadays unless you're over 65 you'd be labelled with "drug seeking behavior" (in your records) and sent home with nothing and a "come to the hospital when you pass your stone." Forget the fact that the difference between drug-seeking behavior and legitimately needing something stronger is indistinguishable, and forget the fact that it will cost thousands upon…

Absolutely.

My wife had some core muscles in her back collapse. Think unable to walk and could only crawl with me holding her hips up. When she went to the primary doc, he thought it was drug seeking behavior. When she went to the ER they luckily decided that she was serious and gave her the most powerful muscle relaxant available - Valium. She had no idea, but it it saved her life.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

#95
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Was the footnote there when you wrote this comment? >Most people consume ecstasy by mouth, but I’ve heard from many that anal ecstasy is a more satisfying experience. I think the author was being a little facetious.

More like... fecetious

You know what the root word of facetious is?

It's not, but it should be.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

#96
post #89

At a meeting where Electronic Medical Records was on the agenda, I happened to have been sitting next to a manager involved with that and joked about that you can't take ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code T43.616A ( Underdosing of caffeine, initial encounter https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/S00-T88/T36-T50/T43/... ) to Starbucks with a prescription. He chuckled a bit and told a tale of when he actually had that show up…

> added one cup of coffee caffeine equivalent to his IV. > The IV was much more than the cup of coffee To be clear you mean about same concentration i.e 100mg but higher absorption?

> To be clear you mean about same concentration i.e 100mg but higher absorption?

I think he means that the IV caffeine cost much more than a cup of Starbucks would have.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

#97
post #89

At a meeting where Electronic Medical Records was on the agenda, I happened to have been sitting next to a manager involved with that and joked about that you can't take ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code T43.616A ( Underdosing of caffeine, initial encounter https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/S00-T88/T36-T50/T43/... ) to Starbucks with a prescription. He chuckled a bit and told a tale of when he actually had that show up…

> added one cup of coffee caffeine equivalent to his IV. > The IV was much more than the cup of coffee To be clear you mean about same concentration i.e 100mg but higher absorption?

Starbucks is like $5 per 100-200mg. IV caffeine is like $500 per 100-200mg.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

#99
post #89

At a meeting where Electronic Medical Records was on the agenda, I happened to have been sitting next to a manager involved with that and joked about that you can't take ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code T43.616A ( Underdosing of caffeine, initial encounter https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/S00-T88/T36-T50/T43/... ) to Starbucks with a prescription. He chuckled a bit and told a tale of when he actually had that show up…

> added one cup of coffee caffeine equivalent to his IV. > The IV was much more than the cup of coffee To be clear you mean about same concentration i.e 100mg but higher absorption?

The price that the hospital billed was much more than the cup of coffee.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

#100
post #66
post #56

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Coffee doesn't cause tooth decay. Sugar causes tooth decay. You can drink Coffee without sugar.

Not a dentist, but I think it's the acid that causes tooth decay. Microbes create the acid from dissolved sugar in your mouth. The question is whether coffee is acidic enough to do damage even without the sugar.

Hey look something I’m relevant too as a dentist.

Tooth decay requires several parameters 1- bacteria 2- bacteria food source 3- acidic environment 4- time

We all have the bacteria but the other ones are somewhat controllable. What many people don’t account for is the 4th parameter of contact time. It would be better (for your teeth, not overall health) to rapidly drink several sodas than periodically sip one for several hours.

Decay typically only occurs in a pH environment of 5.5 or lower, otherwise the enamel is resistant to the acid. So the longer the pH is lower the more likely you will develop a cavity.

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