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Re: NYC Subwaysheds

#91

very cool. but I noticed some of the stop information is incorrect. for example, the franklin stop on the C train in Brooklyn, isn't connected to the franklin stop on the shuttle. (I live like 2 blocks from that station)

Edit: in the map they aren't connected. It shows them as two separate stations. Im arguing that they are the same station. And one can transfer easily from the "C" to the "Shuttle" and vice versa.

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#92

very cool. but I noticed some of the stop information is incorrect. for example, the franklin stop on the C train in Brooklyn, isn't connected to the franklin stop on the shuttle. (I live like 2 blocks from that station)

If you live 2 blocks away, you probably often see the green skyway that crosses Fulton to connect the C and S ;)

look at the map, they're listed as two separate stations. I'm saying this is false, they are the same station.

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#93
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very cool. but I noticed some of the stop information is incorrect. for example, the franklin stop on the C train in Brooklyn, isn't connected to the franklin stop on the shuttle. (I live like 2 blocks from that station)

I’ve taken that connection so I assure you it is! The S train is elevated and quite a walk from the C platform but they are accessible from each other (including via elevator, which is a rarity)

Look at the map, its listed as two separate stations. I'm in agreement with you, they are the same station.

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#94

I have a somewhat different concern, exposed by the map and how far some places are from being well served. The map itself is great. Will the NYC subway system ever evolve further? My mind is on Tokyo a lot lately, because of some recent visits, and also probably related I get served up a bunch of Youtube videos about how the Tokyo metro has evolved over time. The subway system in Tokyo improved over decades by forci…

It sort of helps that Tokyo was firebombed into oblivion roughly 80 years ago. Much easier to build, expand, and maintain. Also an entirely different culture around transportation and property rights not to mention civic pride.

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#95
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This kind of tool would be absolutely brilliant as part of Zillow. I'd love to see various distances from properties assuming bike, or walking, or driving, etc. Everyone who lives in a neighborhood knows these things, but it's really hard to figure it out before without traveling there and attempting some things.

I've sort of done this using the Walk score transit heat maps (they have similar for biking and walking as well) for getting a more broad feel for what areas are walkable/bikeable/less car dependant while house shopping, using a user script that takes the map tiles from Walkscore and injects them into the Google maps instance on Zillow. However, you could definitely generate the distance from a point heat/contour maps using QGIS/OSM data and overlay the tiles that way as well.

Would be super nice if this was built into Zillow, or any MLS browsing tool for that matter...

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#96
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That might not be an entirely wrong assumption to make. An office worker's working hours usually has some amount of slack, and people are willing to adjust their schedule to minimize wait time. No point waiting 25 minutes every day when you can get up 5 minutes earlier and wait basically zero.

The subway doesn’t keep to a strict schedule (it has one in theory but no one would depend on it), and has anywhere between 3 and 20 minute headways (time between trains). You can sort of kind of get close to 1-2 minutes of slack if you have an app telling you how far away the subway is (CityMapper has this feature), but you can’t really time your sleep or known work hours for making a specific subway.

I mean super-digital people really do. If your train only comes every 20 min, you absolutely have your eye on the app and change the speed you eat breakfast in the morning, or decide you can reply to 4 more emails before leaving work.

There are tons of apps with live train countdowns. They're probably the biggest improvement to NYers quality of life in the past 30 years honestly, with ridesharing in second place.

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I have a somewhat different concern, exposed by the map and how far some places are from being well served. The map itself is great. Will the NYC subway system ever evolve further? My mind is on Tokyo a lot lately, because of some recent visits, and also probably related I get served up a bunch of Youtube videos about how the Tokyo metro has evolved over time. The subway system in Tokyo improved over decades by forci…

As someone who's a subway "maximalist": despite my (and millions of others') desire for a radically expanded network, I don't think we'll see one. The political (and capital) costs of expanding the network are immense, and the incentives are all wrong: the MTA is a state agency rather than a city one, meaning that a perpetually underfunded and worse-than-acceptable subway system is a useful piece of political leverage against the city.

Instead, we may see some "expansion" the network by reviving old lines that have fallen into disuse and taking over industrial/freight lines that see less use. The IBX[1] is one such development; my hope is that the MTA also considers re-expanding the G's service back out to Forest Hills (as it was before 2001)[2].

TL;DR: Massive capital investment and home rule need to happen.

[1]: https://new.mta.info/project/interborough-express

[2]: https://greenpointers.com/2023/01/23/op-ed-5-ways-to-improve...

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#98
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Nice first pass, but its clearly calculating these as the pigeon flies and not taking the various stitched together street grids into account. You should get diamond and square shapes, not circles, for the most part. I'm working on a redesigned subway map / nomenclature an indicators of walking time to nearest stations is a subtle feature I want to build in. Something between a watershed like this and a vornoi diagra…

I did this exact thing in 1st year geography. Gotta use the network analysis tool, not spatial analysis. Distance along road segments, not the Euclidean distance tool.

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#99
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zillow already has that. You input an address and it tells you the distance in time by transportation method on each property details screen. You can also sort properties according to distance from the given address. The software labels it a "work" address, but you will face no consequences for using an address that you do not work at.

The problem is that this shows you how long it takes to get to a single place, rather than showing a map visualization like this site. I've often really wanted this on StreetEasy especially. I don't want to know how long it takes just to get to work, I want to know how long it takes to every neighborhood I regularly travel to.

Exactly. Commute time is interesting and useful but easy to find in a million ways.

I want to know all the places I don’t know about that are X minutes away.

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Google maps is pretty basic for its routing. For example, I use a skateboard to commute to transit stops. It effectively cuts walk times in half or more and is easy to carry on a crowded train. There is no way to set this average walking/skating speed, however, so the routes they choose are not optimal and require my own localized knowledge of the transit network and schedule, and knowing the best routes for skating…

Google maps seems to have evolved into something by and for car-centric user base.

Apple didn’t exactly do a speedy rollout of bike directions in their Maps app. I find it hard to blame Google here. Seems more like a symptom of our society to me.
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