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Re: Apple Vision

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Post by brookst »

endisneigh wrote: post #53
aqme28 wrote: post #34

All these "relive your memory" videos are incredibly awkward, because of how downright sad it is to strap this on your head during your kid's birthday just to relive it on repeat like Tom Cruise in Minority Report. The real usecase is porn, but they're too tactful to say it.

> The real usecase is porn, but they're too tactful to say it. I don't know why people keep projecting their own desires onto others, lol.

Leaving personal desires out of it, the relationship of porn and tech goes back at least to VHS vs Betamax, probably further. It’s not unreasonable to believe that does not stop with XR headsets.

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by m3kw9 »

aqme28 wrote: post #34

All these "relive your memory" videos are incredibly awkward, because of how downright sad it is to strap this on your head during your kid's birthday just to relive it on repeat like Tom Cruise in Minority Report. The real usecase is porn, but they're too tactful to say it.

Is weird why he said that when a video or photo serves the exact same purpose, to view and relive past memories except in 2D. The world has been doing it it for a century

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by ivan_gammel »

aqme28 wrote: post #34

All these "relive your memory" videos are incredibly awkward, because of how downright sad it is to strap this on your head during your kid's birthday just to relive it on repeat like Tom Cruise in Minority Report. The real usecase is porn, but they're too tactful to say it.

If you go to any concert or other public event, half of the audience will be recording on their smartphone instead of watching. I do not see any reason why an iphone of tomorrow won’t have a 3D camera to record and share any important moments the same way as we do it now. There will be the time when we will watch dashcam and drone videos of car crashes, natural disasters and soldiers dying on battlefield sitting on a sofa in those shiny glasses.

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by pfannkuchen »

aqme28 wrote: post #34

All these "relive your memory" videos are incredibly awkward, because of how downright sad it is to strap this on your head during your kid's birthday just to relive it on repeat like Tom Cruise in Minority Report. The real usecase is porn, but they're too tactful to say it.

Is it that different from using one of those gigantic camcorders from the 80’s where you had to put one eye up to a viewer stalk? People used those, but it’s not like they had it out the entire event (I assume, based on how short the videos I’ve seen taken with them usually are).

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by endisneigh »

brookst wrote: post #91
endisneigh wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The real usecase is porn, but they're too tactful to say it. I don't know why people keep projecting their own desires onto others, lol.

Leaving personal desires out of it, the relationship of porn and tech goes back at least to VHS vs Betamax, probably further. It’s not unreasonable to believe that does not stop with XR headsets.

Sure, but what's the relationship post Blu-Ray? Serving video in general has been important, but not pornography in particular. Ridiculous to say porn is the real usecase. If you have some articles about how porn in particular has driven cutting edge tech please do share. My understanding is that it's been more military, video games and space that have driven cutting edge tech (along with serving ads, of course).

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by anamexis »

endisneigh wrote: post #53
aqme28 wrote: post #34

All these "relive your memory" videos are incredibly awkward, because of how downright sad it is to strap this on your head during your kid's birthday just to relive it on repeat like Tom Cruise in Minority Report. The real usecase is porn, but they're too tactful to say it.

> The real usecase is porn, but they're too tactful to say it. I don't know why people keep projecting their own desires onto others, lol.

Sexual desire is pretty universally human, not personal.

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by thomas_ma »

pavlov wrote: post #61
intev wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> demos that failed to deliver actual user value Does Apple have a a history of doing this? I think that's why people are excited.

Newton, Power Mac Cube, iMac G4 "Sunflower", and solid gold first-gen Apple Watch come to mind as Apple hardware products that failed to live up to the hype. On the software side there are more misses, but also the stakes are lower. It's a great track record for thirty years, of course. All the other big tech companies have graveyards full of half-assed product launches.

In what sense did the iMac G4 fail to live up to the hype? That was my first Mac, I still have it. Thought it was an incredible computer for the time--the iMac + OS X 10.1 Puma was absolutely magical coming from Windows 98 on a beige Dell.

The design still looks incredible too, 20+ years later.

I will grant that the Newton failed. In the Apple hardware category, I'd also add the iPod Hi-Fi, the butterfly keyboard, and the touch bar.

That said, Apple's failures are rare and their multi-decade track record of delivering on hype is unsurpassed.

Re: Apple Vision

#98

Post by dgs_sgd »

Does anyone think the military would be interested in using vision for training purposes, like a fully immersive combat experience?

Seems like a market that the article missed.

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by cassianoleal »

robotshmobot wrote: post #49
bullen wrote: post #29

This is pretty bad for VR. It will most likely flop because it has no reliable input. So far FrankenQuest 2/3 is on top: http://move.rupy.se/file/FrankenQuest.png Let's see what Valve can do...

>It will most likely flop because it has no reliable input. This reads like the critiques just after the iPhone was announced that it will flop because it didn’t have a physical keyboard…

What does it even mean, "no reliable input"?

Are they talking about input devices? Not only the headset doesn't need one for basic operations, but it's also compatible with keyboards, mice/trackpads and game controllers. What's missing?

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