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Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by ryanbrunner »

captainmuon wrote: post #30
tyingq wrote: post #29

A year or two prior to this, they were also putting linked sites into iframes, with the "digg bar" on top. So they had managed to alienate not just their users, but also the site owners that all the content linked to.

That can actually be quite useful, if implemented correctly. Even as a site owner I wouldn't mind, because it lets users upvote my content after reading it easily. But evolving browser standards killed it and most of the time it was implemented annoyingly. Actually it would be nice if this was a browser feature. Click on a link on a site like HN or Reddit, browse to the new page as usual, but you have a little incons…

I sort of wish they had this on Reddit - one of my big annoyances is that their "best" view (the one that the homepage defaults to) will deprioritize anything you've already clicked on, so if you click on an article, read it and then go back to Reddit it's completely gone from the view if you want to upvote it or comment on it.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by afavour »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #51
deergomoo wrote: post #18

Good read. Interesting that the author’s takeaway is that folks consider Digg v4 to be a catastrophic launch because of the myriad technical issues. I don’t even remember there being technical issues, I just remember logging in one day to find a website I enjoyed replaced with a bunch of crap I wasn’t interested in.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

I’ve also been a Redditor for well over a decade. While I miss the days when it was a smaller niche site (before the Digg implosion it was basically a nerdier, smaller Digg) I still use and enjoy the site plenty today.

I have never been accused of being a racist transphobe whatever, if that’s your number one issue with the site maybe some inward reflection is in order? Just don’t get involved in political flamewars, they serve absolutely no purpose for anyone involved.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by tylerscott »

radarsat1 wrote: post #82
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

I don't know about the social justice issues, but I've found that a growing problem with reddit is what I'll summarize as "the rules". I admit I'm much more of a lurker than a contributor, but I do post things from time to time. Comments fairly frequently in technical forums, and posts much less frequently, but when they are, they are either: 1) to show a project I did, or 2) to ask a technical question. Basically al…

I can confirm it is not just you. I’ve had similar experiences in other subreddits. Eventually I just stopped trying because it’s super demoralizing trying to navigate the myriad of rules in each subreddit.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by geerlingguy »

radarsat1 wrote: post #82
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

I don't know about the social justice issues, but I've found that a growing problem with reddit is what I'll summarize as "the rules". I admit I'm much more of a lurker than a contributor, but I do post things from time to time. Comments fairly frequently in technical forums, and posts much less frequently, but when they are, they are either: 1) to show a project I did, or 2) to ask a technical question. Basically al…

Yeah; almost all the subreddits with more than a few thousand members have decided you can't post any links to anything of your own, labeling it self promotion. I think corporate blogspam is to blame.

But I have been soft-banned from the Raspberry Pi subreddit for years (which is rich!) for self promotion since I used to link to my blog posts about various Pi topics.

So I started doing text posts, and would have 3-5 paragraphs about the topic, then at the bottom a link for more info to my blog post. Nope, self-promotion.

I had similar issues in many other places, and in a lot of subs, even if you post a link, if you forget to also add a comment with specific points, or set flair after posting... all kinds of arcane rules, then your post will get deleted.

I haven't been banned from any sub AFAICT, but mods are swift to ban for almost any reason these days, especially for anyone who dares to challenge whatever the groupthink is (in the Apple sub, it was basically "if you dare put Apple in a bad light or question anything they do" for a time, I think I may have been banned there for posting a complaint about the Touch Bar!).

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by TheCaptain4815 »

People comparing this to reddit today and anticipating a downfall to a new flashy competitor are in for a rude awakening. A huge portion of the country believes in "hate speech" and "election misinformation" as a major issue in the country.

If the original reddit were introduced today with the exact same owners (RIP Aaron), rules, and layout, they'd be cut off by AWS, their IP provider, called Nazi's on CNN, etc.

On top of that, it's clear a site such as Reddit pushes their political viewpoints forward. Why would they give up such power for a more "balanced" and "fair" site. Look what happened in 2016 when the DNC leaks occurred and Trump stuff was on the frontpage day and night.

Personally I hope this does happen and would LOVE to see a few things defaulted in the new reddit.

1) Allow viewing of removed comments. 2) Give mods the ability to remove upvotes in comments (for a more OG message board vibe) 3) A different type of view for a political post. Maybe instead of just seeing the best comment, you'd get the ability to see the top comment + top rebuttal or something.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by david38 »

afavour wrote: post #92
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

I’ve also been a Redditor for well over a decade. While I miss the days when it was a smaller niche site (before the Digg implosion it was basically a nerdier, smaller Digg) I still use and enjoy the site plenty today. I have never been accused of being a racist transphobe whatever, if that’s your number one issue with the site maybe some inward reflection is in order? Just don’t get involved in political flamewars,…

The old “if the issue doesn’t affect me, it’s probably something with you.”

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by unsupp0rted »

afavour wrote: post #92
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

I’ve also been a Redditor for well over a decade. While I miss the days when it was a smaller niche site (before the Digg implosion it was basically a nerdier, smaller Digg) I still use and enjoy the site plenty today. I have never been accused of being a racist transphobe whatever, if that’s your number one issue with the site maybe some inward reflection is in order? Just don’t get involved in political flamewars,…

I got banned from /r/CanadaCoronavirus for saying at the time we didn't yet know how many doses and on what schedule of the vaccine would be needed.

Banned. That's anti-vaxx propaganda on my part, evidently.

I messaged the mods to explain that I was triple-vaxxed and what I said was not only factually correct, it wasn't even controversial.

The mods patiently replied that anti-vaxx trolls like me will be reported to reddit to have my entire account banned "for harassment" if I contact them again.

What inward reflection do I need? This is just one of myriad examples with mods who don't actually read or process the content about which they're banning people.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by TheCaptain4815 »

kristiandupont wrote: post #84
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

>every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Nobody on Reddit has called me any of those things.

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Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by faefox »

silvestrov wrote: post #83
faefox wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the question people should be asking rather than trying to identify which Digg employee should be retroactively thrown under the bus. Just a completely insane design decision.

This is one of those things that are so bad it warrants breaking backwards compability, possibly by releasing a python v4.

If they start today they could complete the migration by the mid-2040s!
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