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First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by jdironman »

eternityforest wrote: post #46
nbittich wrote: post #34

Same pattern over and over, futuristic hardware, closed source software. This looks boring to me. I don't expect anything ground breaking from it. It's gonna be an iphone sticked to your eyes. Those big tech companies remove all the fun and excitement we used to have with new hardware. We know how it's gonna behave and it's limitation before it's released to the public.

When Apple does something new, everyone else generally has it in a few years. There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually and anyone will be able to make their app have virtual space widgets or something. Of course that doesn't guarantee anyone will actually do anything cool with it, but they'll be able to.

I think with the Oculus, at least when developing with Unity, you target the Android platform. I'll admit I've never actually looked at what is under the hood in the Quest.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by easeout »

PostOnce wrote: post #72

I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing. Their sales pitch was "it makes it amazing to read articles in safari"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E&t=5410s $3500 to... look at a floating web browser? Surely they can come up with something. Give me UV/IR vision, let me see the pipes under the ground, show me how to assemble the furniture I'm looking at, give me a template to pain…

You can draw users with a killer app but you can also draw developers with a killer user base. I believe they're leaning on iPhone/iPad app compatibility and Mac screen display to launch it as a peripheral first with existing third party apps, then establish it as a place your customers are waiting for you.

Early adopters first, of course. Maybe it really is too early? Depends on the response.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by mschuster91 »

PostOnce wrote: post #72

I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing. Their sales pitch was "it makes it amazing to read articles in safari"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E&t=5410s $3500 to... look at a floating web browser? Surely they can come up with something. Give me UV/IR vision, let me see the pipes under the ground, show me how to assemble the furniture I'm looking at, give me a template to pain…

Apple is IMO attempting to brute-force create a market here. Facebook/Meta couldn't do the job - for one, Zuck has no idea what he's doing other than chasing buzzwords, for other, they have destroyed a lot of user trust over the past years. And I'm not sure if the stock could take more billions sunk.

Apple in contrast? They deliver a whole different game in terms of quality and capability, and now others will take up developing stuff for the platform, just like it happened with every new class of device Apple pushed out. And financially, Apple doesn't have to take care of anything, they have more cash on hand than the GDP of entire countries (165 billion $ [1], more than Kuwait, Ukraine or Venezuela [2]).

And even if there don't appear any VR apps - movie addicts will love it.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/05/how-markets-biggest-companie...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by krageon »

7e wrote: post #62
deadbolt wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate?

https://www.audioholics.com/editorials/warning-3d-video-haza...

This is specifically for children under seven, and presumably (I have not yet read the actual study) only when a certain percentage of time is spent immersed in VR. I would be very surprised if this was solved, this looks more like a "just don't do this". That's eminently reasonable for the first seven years.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by ricardobayes »

jve wrote: post #86

To everyone complaining about the price, let's add Steve Ballmer to the studio, he will give some weight to your words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qycUOENFIBs

It never made sense back then and neither does now. The new iPhone is what, the best part of 1300 Euros here in Spain. A full monthly salary...

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by makeitdouble »

> Namely, 5,000 patents filed over the past few years and an enormous base of talent and capital to work with.

It was mentionned in the keynote as well...should Apple really brag about their patent minefield in a field that is in need of more players and more efforts to push it forward ?

> In many cases it literally hurt to do so. Not with the Apple Vision Pro – text is super crisp and legible at all sizes and at far “distances” within your space.

That's the part I was most intrigued with, and on one size given the 4K resolution per eye, text being readable was expected, but I can't wait to have more details on how "crisp and legible at all sizes" it is. I have no idea of what's M.Panzerino's threshold is for "crisp", hope it's better than just Full HD level.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by RobotToaster »

eternityforest wrote: post #46
nbittich wrote: post #34

Same pattern over and over, futuristic hardware, closed source software. This looks boring to me. I don't expect anything ground breaking from it. It's gonna be an iphone sticked to your eyes. Those big tech companies remove all the fun and excitement we used to have with new hardware. We know how it's gonna behave and it's limitation before it's released to the public.

When Apple does something new, everyone else generally has it in a few years. There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually and anyone will be able to make their app have virtual space widgets or something. Of course that doesn't guarantee anyone will actually do anything cool with it, but they'll be able to.

>There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually

Google glass?

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by hooch »

PostOnce wrote: post #72

I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing. Their sales pitch was "it makes it amazing to read articles in safari"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E&t=5410s $3500 to... look at a floating web browser? Surely they can come up with something. Give me UV/IR vision, let me see the pipes under the ground, show me how to assemble the furniture I'm looking at, give me a template to pain…

If you look more closely at the keynote such AR apps are demoed; a factory process visualisation, and a human heart, if I recall correctly.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by cjlacz »

PostOnce wrote: post #72

I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing. Their sales pitch was "it makes it amazing to read articles in safari"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E&t=5410s $3500 to... look at a floating web browser? Surely they can come up with something. Give me UV/IR vision, let me see the pipes under the ground, show me how to assemble the furniture I'm looking at, give me a template to pain…

To me, it wasn't that I could use Safari that was killer app, but the fact I can use it as a monitor that impresses me. I don't think most VR setups allow you to read text as easily as on a monitor and that is what Apple is claiming. (First impressions seem to support). The second part is not requiring a controller. If I can control this with my eyes, hand and voice. That means I can use a keyboard with it. I assume they'll have some virtual version too. With those two things, a whole lot more use cases open up around it. I don't plan on getting one right away or anything, but an actual usable computer is far more interesting than something that plays games, moves some models around in space and does video conferencing with avatars.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by eternityforest »

RobotToaster wrote: post #97
eternityforest wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Apple does something new, everyone else generally has it in a few years. There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually and anyone will be able to make their app have virtual space widgets or something. Of course that doesn't guarantee anyone will actually do anything cool with it, but they'll be able to.

>There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually Google glass?

Yeah, like that, but a version that people actually want!
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