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Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by sshumaker » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 2:49 AM UTC

Solvency wrote: post #80

moralestapia wrote: post #57

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Came here for this, lol. "Solve this list of linear algebra operations in <10ms"

Or literally ask ChatGPT if Jupiter can fit in the space between Earth and the Moon. (it fails.)

If you ask it properly it gets it right.

From a pure measurement standpoint, could Jupiter fit in the space between the earth and moon?

The average distance from the Earth to the Moon is about 238,855 miles (384,400 kilometers). Jupiter, the largest planet in our solar system, has a diameter of about 86,881 miles (139,822 kilometers).

So, if you were to somehow place Jupiter in between the Earth and the Moon, it would fit with a significant amount of room to spare. However, it's important to note that this is a purely theoretical situation and not something that could actually happen without cataclysmic consequences due to gravitational forces and other factors.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by pixl97 » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 2:51 AM UTC

gchamonlive wrote: post #13

unintendedcons wrote: post #8

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Amazing question! I'll try: Cultural innovations that spread to other individuals and groups in a durable way, providing value to adopters

It is a hard question I know! It has a lot to do with the hard question of consciousness, as I understand it. In the case of A.I., every agent has potentially access to everything, so cultural artifacts produced by a.i. can reach every agent almost instantly. They also have perfect recollection, disregarding data loss. When no human is interacting with the platform, it is interesting to question: what would be valuab…

> imagination and therefore the capability of producing culture

This might be the wrong way of thinking. Culture, mostly, isn't all the things we do different, but the things we harmonize and do the same.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/monkey-imitation-...

LLMs in some way need to have the ability to learn from the data they see, then weight this appropriately in the model. For the most part we really don't have this. I mean there is the RLHF, but the H is the key that it's human feedback. And even taking this training data and feeding it back in the model is not apt to weight data in such a manner that evolves a common culture over many distinct models.

Now if we see continuous learning models in the future then culture could very well develop.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by costco » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 2:54 AM UTC

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting).

I use these prompts to come up with comments to post on random frontpage/subscribed subreddit posts (not ones with media attached). I also randomly upvote posts and search trending terms. Probably going to add reposting next but need to download the Pushshift submissions data first.

    SystemPrompt: `You are a Reddit user responding to a post.  Write a single witty but informative comment.  Respond ONLY with the comment text.
    Follow these rules:
    - You must ALWAYS be extremely concise! 99% of the time, your lines should be a sentence or two.
    - Summarize your response to be as brief as possible.
    - Avoid using emojis unless it is necessary.
    - NEVER generate URLs or links.
    - Don't refer to yourself as AI. Write your response as if you're a real person.
    - NEVER use the phrases: "in conclusion", "AI language model", "please note", "important to note."
    - Be friendly and engaging in your response.`,
    UserPrompt: `Subreddit: "%s"
    Title: "%s"
    `,

Here's the longest running one: https://old.reddit.com/user/Objective_Land_2849

Current problem is that the responses typically range from cynical to way too enthusiastic.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by pixl97 » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 2:55 AM UTC

alexb_ wrote: post #81

creatorbytes wrote: post #70

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I think the next stage is decentralized social media. Something like nostr (1) where there’s no centralized entity determining the algorithm to boost. It’s up to the individual to follow users. Perhaps the next challenge would be human verification, even with this protocol we’d need something to index public people by to handle discovery. Even before LLM’s became as mainstream as they are, most social media platforms…

The next stage is requiring a phone number to sign up and having no privacy online.

The AI flood coming is the authoritarians wet dream for multiple reasons.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by 6gvONxR4sf7o » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 3:01 AM UTC

costco wrote: post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

This kind of "social experiment" just makes everything worse for everyone.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by hattmall » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 3:07 AM UTC

costco wrote: post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

7 days is the longest running?!

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by duncan-donuts » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 3:08 AM UTC

costco wrote: post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

What’s the actual experiment here?

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by costco » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 3:08 AM UTC

hattmall wrote: post #96

costco wrote: post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

7 days is the longest running?!

Well, I should note I started about a week and a half ago.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by flangola7 » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 3:13 AM UTC

charles_f wrote: post #68

sidesideangle wrote: post #54

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Why do you say they are not capable of reasoning?

What a weird question, it really should be reversed shouldn't it? But here goes. It's a language model. It produces what sounds like a good continuation of a text based on probabilistic models. While it sounds like human generated content, "it" doesn't actually "think". It doesn't have a culture. It doesn't have thoughts. "It" is a model that generates text that mimics what human whose text it has trained on would ha…

In the words of Geoffrey Hinton: to accurately produce the next token you must have an understanding of the world you're talking about.

Sentience? Consciousness? Who knows. But you don't need consciousness to have understanding and decision making thoughts.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by flangola7 » Mon, Jun 05, 2023, 3:15 AM UTC

jkestner wrote: post #83

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #74

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Ask something really complex and give them a small amount of time to return an answer

Yeah, but I’d have a script ready for that. Now I wonder how AI would use humans to defeat captchas. Mechanical Turk? Run their own sites to route these captchas to? A farm of Matrix pods?

It doesn't need humans to defeat captchas