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At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by Majromax »

kkielhofner wrote: post #9
kytazo wrote: post #4

Not sure if rpis are that relevant as of now when there are so many other, usually more performant and overall compelling offers in the same form factor and upstream support to a certain degree.

I agree completely. I've ranted on this a bit on HN before but in many ways the Raspberry Pi is a victim of its own success. It more or less became the "jack of all trades master of none" for a staggering variety of projects and applications - even when it is far from the best approach. I personally cringe when I see people trying to string together a bunch of drives on a shared USB bus for a NAS application, or tryi…

> I personally cringe when I see people trying to string together a bunch of drives on a shared USB bus for a NAS application, or trying to hack something around the single lane of PCIe or whatever... When by the time you get to kludging that together you could have bought a small used NAS with drive bays for equivalent or less cost that would be at least an order of magnitude faster and significantly more reliable.

I don't think this is a fair comparison. In principle, anyone could follow the hacky instructions for the Pi and complete the same project. In some cases (such as the PiHole), it might even be worthwhile.

If your instructions begin with "find a used thin client on eBay," however, then there's no guarantee that the subsequent instructions are useful. My thin terminal might not be the same as the author's, and the author certainly can't specify a single particular brand/model because the eBay stock is limited and changeable.

"Mainstreaming" a hobby project needs the standardization at least as much as it needs the performance, and the Raspberry Pi's ecosystem remains an advantage. Ironically, this advantage is the same reason that the company prioritized business deliveries during the shortage, since business use depends even more critically on the stable, supported platform.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by pmontra »

leidenfrost wrote: post #40
kkielhofner wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree completely. I've ranted on this a bit on HN before but in many ways the Raspberry Pi is a victim of its own success. It more or less became the "jack of all trades master of none" for a staggering variety of projects and applications - even when it is far from the best approach. I personally cringe when I see people trying to string together a bunch of drives on a shared USB bus for a NAS application, or tryi…

I'm looking for a noiseless low power NAS solution. Any recommendations? After my transtition to an M1, now I can't stand any fan noise running on the background.

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Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by chimpoftheages »

joezydeco wrote: post #90
chimpoftheages wrote: post #88

I'd be happier if they ditched pi 4 production and just released a 5 with whatever SOC manufacturer has the best availability, hopefully that isn't Broadcom.

There are other SBCs with SoCs from other manufacturers out there. They've been out there for a decade. Think BeagleBoard or Wandboard.

Sure, I own a few pine64 devices and an RPI4 too. I would like the raspberry PI community to synchronize on a manufacturer like rockchip for a while. I simply never see a useful broadcom chip in the wild that isn't in a RPI and the RPIs omit features I want.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by LeafItAlone »

kytazo wrote: post #4

Not sure if rpis are that relevant as of now when there are so many other, usually more performant and overall compelling offers in the same form factor and upstream support to a certain degree.

To me, the frequent posts about RPi projects, sourcing, and the like that reach the front page of HN suggests otherwise.

What is your suggested favorite replacement? All the less that I’ve looked into are either just as hard to get and expensive or are discontinued before they gain ground. Happy to consider other options.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by nubinetwork »

I haven't had many problems buying one if I need one, but Buy a PI's Canadian store is selling them for $185, which is a little much. At least they throw in a case, some heatsinks, a power supply and some cables.

For those who have been having problems getting one, is it because they've been hoarding them? I'd really like to know what people are doing that needs more than two or three Pis.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by LeafItAlone »

butz wrote: post #87

I wonder how many people have several older models of Raspberry Pi sitting in their drawers and collecting dust, as selling them seems to be too much of the hassle?

I have a few of the model B version that was released in 2012, somewhere in my basement. I’m not even sure how usable these would be today.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by WheatMillington »

nubinetwork wrote: post #96

I haven't had many problems buying one if I need one, but Buy a PI's Canadian store is selling them for $185, which is a little much. At least they throw in a case, some heatsinks, a power supply and some cables. For those who have been having problems getting one, is it because they've been hoarding them? I'd really like to know what people are doing that needs more than two or three Pis.

I haven't been able to buy one in New Zealand for years now, at any price.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by vineyardmike »

nubinetwork wrote: post #96

I haven't had many problems buying one if I need one, but Buy a PI's Canadian store is selling them for $185, which is a little much. At least they throw in a case, some heatsinks, a power supply and some cables. For those who have been having problems getting one, is it because they've been hoarding them? I'd really like to know what people are doing that needs more than two or three Pis.

> Buy a PI's Canadian store is selling them for $185

> For those who have been having problems getting one, is it because they've been hoarding them?

They retail for well under $100. You’ve been buying from scalpers who are jacking up the prices.

MSRP-priced retailers haven’t been able to keep stock in years, and often sell out within minutes of getting inventory.

Some people just want their first or second RPI, but aren’t willing to pay scalpers. I don’t know how many people are hoarding them, but I know some people prefer them to arduinos and more simple microcontrollers. Many people are more familiar with Linux development instead of embedded development.

When they were cheap $35 boards, the advice was buy one per project.

Re: At last, the Raspberry Pi shortage is finally coming to an end

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Post by nubinetwork »

vineyardmike wrote: post #99
nubinetwork wrote: post #96

I haven't had many problems buying one if I need one, but Buy a PI's Canadian store is selling them for $185, which is a little much. At least they throw in a case, some heatsinks, a power supply and some cables. For those who have been having problems getting one, is it because they've been hoarding them? I'd really like to know what people are doing that needs more than two or three Pis.

> Buy a PI's Canadian store is selling them for $185 > For those who have been having problems getting one, is it because they've been hoarding them? They retail for well under $100. You’ve been buying from scalpers who are jacking up the prices. MSRP-priced retailers haven’t been able to keep stock in years, and often sell out within minutes of getting inventory. Some people just want their first or second RPI, but…

> scalpers

Overpriced or not, they are an official reseller according to the RPi website.

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