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I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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I have found a compromise that works well for me when I'm asked to login with facebook. I have created an account that exists solely for situations like this. That way I can use whatever site or app I want and its not connected to me.

Interesting. Anyone else out there have a second Fb account just to login?

Me. I never use my real facebook account to login other sites.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

#92

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Any company offering a free service has to make money somehow, and since they know 5% of internet browsing is on the Fb newsfeed, it's actually not surprising. I wonder, would you pay a $5 subscription so that Facebook doesn't show you ads and lets you own your data? Someone else suggested it.

I am curious why this is not a more popular option across the board. Free with AD's or pay for no ads and no tracking. I would gladly pay for some of the free services if I could get these options and wont even use them for free while the tracking is in place.

Then you have the New York Times: pay and they still display ads.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

#93
Are there any over all stats as to how the general public feel about all this?

Its cool that all us techie types knowing all about these issues, but does the average mug user know, or know enough to care? Most of the "normal" people I know don't even consider this sort of stuff, they just go along with it. "Yeah, whatever", seems to be the usual response. You can see them glaze over and mentally shut down if I dare try to explain it. That sort of go in to "conspiracy nut" mode.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Mark Zuckerberg's perceived public figure does not inspire confidence either. His first actions with Facebook and the story around The Social Network have tainted Facebook for good. Note this might be far from his real personality. People I know at Facebook love him.

I'm not sure that's true, I think The Social Network actually spun him in a positive light. I found public opinion of him improved overall.

I think that may just be because "normal" people finally got a real person to associate with the faceless (ha!) entity that is Facebook. Shifting from "I've never heard of this man" to "his moral character aside, this man is responsible for Facebook" can be seen as an improvement.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

#95

I don't care about apps using my Facebook data (what little there is). I don't trust Facebook not to use data from/about apps that I use. That's why I would never use my Facebook ID to log in to anything. Actually I can come up with a better summary: I don't trust Facebook

I think they're evil too but half the web accepting the same login? Sign me up! (No pun intended.) Account creation has been the single worst thing about using the internet for the past ~20 years. I don't use FB but I have a fake account specifically for this purpose. They are more than welcome to my alter ego's (who is 30+ years older than me and lives in a different state) opinion on pizza crust recipes, bike parts…

Your browsing history will tell FB everything about you, even if your profile says something different. When all your accesses come from IP addresses in one state, it's not going to matter what the profile says.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

#96
We had the same exact experience with out app. It was Facebook login only, and we got a 50% drop in conversion, bad app store reviews, and some of the people who tried to login couldn't because Facebook login either didn't work or was really slow.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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no need to -- I will answer you. Its not feasible in FB current situation. IF they make $100 per year per user already on showing ads/tracking/selling/analyzing/whatever they do to make a buck, then going down to $5/month/user and shifting from paying advertiser to paying user would make it a ghost town. Bottom line: I think most people enjoy what they get out of FB even if they data is being used/sold and they are,…

1) They don't make $100/user/year, not even close. They have 800M users and made 4.27B$ last year. That's $5.33 per user per year . Even considering their number of active users is bunk, there's no way they've reach anything close to $100/user/year - that would mean they only had 42M users. 2) I don't think the suggestion was for them to shift to another revenue model, I think it was to give the option of subscribing…

you are right I had this information wrong, apologize.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

#98
The funny thing is that they've basically admitted that they didn't want to take the time to build a community system capable of dealing with anonymous users or users identified only by some number. The problem with these featureless micro-apps is that you have 20 different tools which cost you little to nothing but are garbage. Either abandon the idea of one-feature apps and incorporate your functionality in a not-quite-as-slick general platform, or double down and make your app work with anonymity.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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I was under the impression that you could turn this off; and that the people who actually care whether they're spamming their friends or not would go to the trouble of doing so.

Ah, if that's true I didn't know. I think I sort of assumed that if it could be turned off, pretty much everyone would (and I've only ever seen technologically competent people posting these ticker stories), but I guess not.

You can choose not to grant Open Graph permissions to Spotify or revoke them at any point. Publish permissions are completely separate from authentication. Publishing can also be disabled from Spotify and there is also a private session mode that you can enable if you want to not publish one or two songs.

Disclaimer: FB engineer who uses Spotify all day every day.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

#100

I don't care about apps using my Facebook data (what little there is). I don't trust Facebook not to use data from/about apps that I use. That's why I would never use my Facebook ID to log in to anything. Actually I can come up with a better summary: I don't trust Facebook

I don't have a ton of data on this, but recently I tested using register with Facebook for my site. It chopped our conversion rates by over half. My audience is very non-tech savy. Personally, I see that as a good sign.
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