Why is autonomous driving being pursued but not remote driving?
Why can I have a seat at my house with controls and drive my Uber/18 wheeler from my house?
Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
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Re: Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
#92I still don’t understand the strategy for Waymo. After running that taxi service in phoenix for this long they resorted to partnering with Uber, it’s a huge failure. What does Uber bring to the table at all? An app that is easily replicable and with google’s reputation they can easily get customers off of Uber to their own platform. It’s a colossal failure. I was really hoping they would use Waze for this purpose. In…
Yes, but this is about PR and the stock price for both companies
Re: Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
#93On a side note, I don't think anything screams big company enterprise more than contracts being announced with a horizontal bar between logos
Re: Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haha, that wasnt some random ass engineer :) >In 2019, Levandowski was indicted on 33 federal charges of alleged theft of self-driving car trade secrets. In August 2020, Levandowski pled guilty to one of the 33 charges, and was sentenced to 18 months in prison. >He was pardoned less than six months later on January 20, 2021, the last day of Donald Trump's presidency.
I forgot he got pardoned. Trump presidency: if you have money you could use that money to literally buy a get out of jail card.
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Re: Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
#95Google owns a bit over 5% of Uber at 70B and a very high percentage of waymo at 30B evaluation. (last measured) so incentive is for Waymo to succeed / grow. It seems counter intuitive to me that they do a strategic partnership with Uber given low switching cost of using another app if it had meaningful cost benefits to the consumer. Additional Google owns the Android platform so could leverage that to it's advantages…
> Google owns a bit over 5% of Uber at 70B
Are you sure? Below lotsofpulp pointed out that they're not listed as a major holder [1] and there was news in 2019 about them considering selling their stake [2]
Re: Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
#96At the moment - self driving technology is as good as LLMs are. When they work, they work wonderfully and when they don't, they don't but the problem is that there's no sure shot way of knowing when they'll work and when they won't. Isn't it or something has changed lately?
The problem is that, unlike with LLMs where a human always can and should fact check/reword before using, there is no such option with self driving. People's lives are literally directly at stake if things go wrong.
For limited scenarios such as geofenced to a city with good weather, it seems that self driving cars (at least Waymo's tech) is good enough, baring some small lapses which are more funny than dangerous. As a general thing everywhere? To me it doesn't look like we're even close (like 10 years) to being there. Also, the problems actually instead of supposedly being solved by self-driving are... very minimal. There will be no noticeable improvement in things that matter the most on the global scale (pollution, congestion, time spent), only marginal practical and maybe financial improvements (there might be more and cheaper taxis).
Self-driving electric trains are already a solved problem that could solve probably the majority of transportation needs, congestion and pollution all in one go.
Re: Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you get a taxi to show up? The last two times I tried to rebel against the rideshare duopoly was the morning before international flights. Trips to the airport are the only use case I have for rideshare. Both times I scheduled the pick up by calling the phone number the day before, both times the driver just… didn’t show up. I panicked and downloaded Lyft. I know some taxi companies have apps now, but if I’m goin…
Same. Every time we tried to call taxis pre-rideshare apps, we always got a "between 30 minutes and 2 hours" estimate if they ever showed up at all. Their CC machine was always conveniently broken unless you didn't have cash and the ATM was real far away. Good riddance.
The “sorry the credit card machine is broken” scam is about as ludicrous as the homeless people asking me for $1. Buddy, I haven’t carried cash since the Obama administration. Half the time I don’t even carry a credit card.
Re: Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
#98I still don’t understand the strategy for Waymo. After running that taxi service in phoenix for this long they resorted to partnering with Uber, it’s a huge failure. What does Uber bring to the table at all? An app that is easily replicable and with google’s reputation they can easily get customers off of Uber to their own platform. It’s a colossal failure. I was really hoping they would use Waze for this purpose. In…
I think they’re accepting the fact that it’s crazy tough to gain market share and requires MILLIONS in ad spending. Sometimes it’s better to have a small piece of a large pie, especially when trying to bootstrap its brand, instead of taking a much bigger slice of a minuscule pie
Re: Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
#99I still don’t understand the strategy for Waymo. After running that taxi service in phoenix for this long they resorted to partnering with Uber, it’s a huge failure. What does Uber bring to the table at all? An app that is easily replicable and with google’s reputation they can easily get customers off of Uber to their own platform. It’s a colossal failure. I was really hoping they would use Waze for this purpose. In…
Uber has saturated a lot of markets and might have a better legal foothold then Waymo/Google can spin up in a short time span.
Maybe this is just Google finally admitting it sucks at a variety of business processes and needs help.
Re: Waymo and Uber partner to bring autonomous driving technology to Uber
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
How much of Uber does Alphabet own? They do not show up in the top 10 list here, so presumably 1% at most? https://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=UBER https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/uber/holders/ Seems like pocket change compared to Alphabet’s other investments.
According to this they own part of it: https://www.gv.com/portfolio
I think google offloaded most of that stake when Uber went public