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It must be nice to live in a country that manages their natural resources with an eye towards long-term sustainability.
Isn't Netherlands bound to flood as ocean levels rise?
Satellites reveal widespread decline in global lake water storage
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#92We're going to need a lot of desalination plants powered by clean energy.
Problem is that everything needs X powered by clean energy, which means we need both a lot more clean energy and, if we want to slow/stop climate change, to massively reduce our use of fossil fuels... which requires a lot more clean energy. We also, so far, globally have not shown any evidence of replacing fossil fuels with green energy, only supplementing them.
And we need more power to let emerging economies rise out of poverty, where having electric pumps and washing are truely life-changing from a quality of life perspective.
So we need about 5x more total energy while also shifting from 80% fossil to 0% fossil.
This is why I advocate for nuclear while most people advocate for wind and solar. We need advocates for all clean energy. Nuclear can actually use its own direct low-carbon heat to help with buildings (district heat) and industry, and that heat can also help in desal in some cases, though RO is the preference these days and doesn't really need that much heat input.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends how close farmers are to water sources. They run high speed pumps at night or camouflage them in streams to get by water restrictions. There’s the famous California telephone pole picture too. https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/themarinpost/emimg/1249/S...
I don't understand that telephone pole picture, the ground did not move around the telephone pole surely. I don't understand the graphics either. 1ft/year generally, but slower than that in the most extreme?
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We pump brine inland to a large flat expendabe plain and flood it to allow the water to evaporate off and the salt to sette. 20-50 years later, pod racing on the salt flat.
I think this causes its own host of issues as there are a load of other nasties such as arsenic etc in seawater which would build up there.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
We pump brine inland to a large flat expendabe plain and flood it to allow the water to evaporate off and the salt to sette. 20-50 years later, pod racing on the salt flat.
I think this causes its own host of issues as there are a load of other nasties such as arsenic etc in seawater which would build up there.
Is it just a case of the scale making it safe?
0: https://www.timeout.com/croatia/things-to-do/ston-salt-works
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#96Here in the Netherlands they decided to increase the water level of our lakes by 5cm to handle the drought season this year. Since the amount of snowfall in the Alps was lower than normal. https://www.rijkswaterstaat.nl/nieuws/archief/2023/04/hoger-...
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Can somebody explain why is this downvoted? If 53% decline, what do the other 47% do? How about total storage?
This, and why 1992-2020? How many of these large lakes are distributed in say, Midwest America/Canada. What were the precipitation levels in that region just a few years prior? Why did they need to involve climate models when we have observable data?
"All applied images have 30-m spatial resolution and were acquired during October 1, 1992 to October 31, 2018. The period was set with regard to the availability of the validation dataset"
[1] Yao, J. Wang, C. Wang, J.-F. Crétaux, Constructing long-term high-frequency time series of global lake and reservoir areas using Landsat imagery. Remote Sens. Environ.232, 111210 (2019).
Re: Satellites reveal widespread decline in global lake water storage
#98Here in the Netherlands they decided to increase the water level of our lakes by 5cm to handle the drought season this year. Since the amount of snowfall in the Alps was lower than normal. https://www.rijkswaterstaat.nl/nieuws/archief/2023/04/hoger-...
It must be nice to live in a country that manages their natural resources with an eye towards long-term sustainability.
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The intention was to get people to read the main thesis critically. That quote is sort of a tell about the quality of this paper, and the more I dig into this paper the more it confirms this is isn't good science.
Your comments seem more skeptical than critical. Are you saying you believe lakes aren’t losing volume?
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends how close farmers are to water sources. They run high speed pumps at night or camouflage them in streams to get by water restrictions. There’s the famous California telephone pole picture too. https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/themarinpost/emimg/1249/S...
I don't understand that telephone pole picture, the ground did not move around the telephone pole surely. I don't understand the graphics either. 1ft/year generally, but slower than that in the most extreme?
The pole is from 1977 or later but shows the historical land level of 1955 and 1925