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Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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https://blog.adafruit.com/2017/08/02/make-your-own-wearable-... Uhh... this is about as innovative as a much cheaper DIY project from many years ago? I think everyone with a vufine and a pi zero has done this before. As a bonus you get to use linux instead of android.

In case anyone wants the original article the adafruit post is based on - [1].

[1] https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/7/27/16035508/d...

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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https://blog.adafruit.com/2017/08/02/make-your-own-wearable-... Uhh... this is about as innovative as a much cheaper DIY project from many years ago? I think everyone with a vufine and a pi zero has done this before. As a bonus you get to use linux instead of android.

It doesn't have to be innovative. It has to work well.

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Bought a Viture One over Kickstarter, got a great pair of XR glasses, with a dial for up to -5 on each individual eye, plus a docking battery and a neckband with Android. Used them with my work Samsung S21 and Dex plus a Bluetooth Logitech keyboard. Total cost, since the phone was free, around 600$. Why would I pay 2000$ for half a laptop keyboard with less power than my phone?!?

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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I think in principle this is a great idea and maybe the future. I just wonder what this will do to your eyes if used the whole day.

Probably not great if you compare to previous inventions. Kids that use iPads early instead of going outside already have problems with developing proper eyesight. TVs made us watch things close, PCs made us watch things closer, then we had smartphones. Wearing glasses is the last step before we go full Borg.

The difference here being that you don't focus on the glass, but further. So in terms of focus, that's closer to a PC screen than to a smartphone, right?

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Fascinating. Hard to know if it's worth it at this stage due to the 1080p per-eye resolution, but the second incarnation of this product ought to be a real game-changer. Also, I noted this passage: even with a very odd prescription (one eye is near-sighted, and one far-sighted) the default corrective lenses Sightful had available worked well. I've never encountered another person with this same eye disorder... It can…

There are dozens of us! My glasses and contact RXs always got a comment. Mine are on the extreme side in difference too, plus astigmatism in one eye and not the other. When contacts were finally available for me, I had to relearn how to live in a 3d space.

I'm definitely going to follow the development of this as attention to edge cases and details like this are a good indicator of quality. It definitely has beta version battery life which I'd hope they'd address in a v2 as well.

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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For a reality check on those large virtual desktop illustrations, while I do like the (same hardware?) NReal Light's 1080p, its 52 deg FOV means looking at such a desktop through a smaller, not-curved, head-pointed portal. Picture holding up your laptop, so it appears 5 fists across diagonally, and then waving it around, likely synchronized with your neck. Which looks something vaguely like these:[1][2]. [1] Phone ph…

Also note the 53-degree FOV they quote is for the diagonal angle! In all their press releases they're comically cagey about giving actual resolution and angle info for the display, which makes me distrust them.

> comically cagey [...] distrust them

The less-than-transparent approach to specs has bothered me as well. But, at least as of a few years ago, their primary market was China, followed by SK and Japan. And was largely media consumption on phones. With competitors that would spin a wider fov, or more distant depth of focus, even with lower resolution, as "we're an N inch TV, not a mere M inch!". So, I've tagged it as culture mismatch, and consumer vs tiny tech. Several things they could have done differently, but unicorn dreams.

Compared with my 15 inch laptop, the glasses too are 1080p, visually about ~50% wider/higher, and ~2 meters out instead of ~half. I might be using it now, if only for posture, but for having diy kludged the eyeglass lens snapons. Face comfort/fit... can be an issue. Folks who live in a one-screen tiling window manager, or in terminals, might use it as a simple monitor. Using a magnetic USB adapter, it's trivially snap-on/off.

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