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Post by thatnerdyguy » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:06 PM UTC

ummonk wrote: post #17

nomel wrote: post #2

I was able to convince my wife to switch for anything remotely "controversial", when, during the pandemic, we caught the relatively "real time" disappearance of several "against the grain" articles about covid [1]. By disappeared, I mean top results for the rough concept one day to not being able to find it, even with the exact title and text, the next. I want a search engine, more than a curated guide. [1] https://w…

It was crazy to see suggestions to wear masks or claims that covid was airborne getting "fact-checked" by the media only to reverse their position months later after WHO put out new statements. In particular, the phrase "no credible evidence" was wildly thrown around without mentioning whether there were any credible high-powered studies that had even attempted to find evidence of the phenomenon.

Post by furyofantares » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:07 PM UTC

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #75

mattkevan wrote: post #68

I've used DDG as my main search engine for about 4 years now. Until recently I found I was still having to go to Google for specific queries, mainly answering coding problems. But in the last 6 months or so, Google's results have gotten so bad and DDG has continued to improve to the point where I no longer bother with !g. When I do use Google I often find myself in the strange position of not actually being able to f…

I use chatgpt, the version with web browsing, instead of Google search some of the time and it does pretty well.

Post by smoldesu » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:09 PM UTC

coconut08 wrote: post #87

lolinder wrote: post #48

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I get so tired of seeing yegg raked over the coals for this one. A search engine by definition takes an editorial stance on things. They take in all of the internet and decide what to present to users. For a search engine to take no editorial position is to yield the floor to whoever can best game the system, and a propaganda machine like Russia's is absolutely capable of exploiting a search engine that doesn't proac…

it is not a search engine's job to filter their results based on acceptable politics. the only explicit filtering out they should be doing is filtering out manipulation, explicitly illegal content, spam, fraudulent content and stuff like that. aside from that the filtering algorithm should be largely neutral and unbiased. it's not a search engine's job to refuse to answer search results because the owner finds it dis…

Post by lern_too_spel » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:10 PM UTC

bakugo wrote: post #57

anamexis wrote: post #42

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Ok. Agreeing with some censorship does not mean you must agree with all censorship.

No, it doesn't, but you're a hypocrite if you don't. If you think there's nothing wrong with the idea that "censorship is good as long as I'm not the one being censored", I don't know what to tell you.

Post by tjohns » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:12 PM UTC

thatnerdyguy wrote: post #92

ummonk wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was crazy to see suggestions to wear masks or claims that covid was airborne getting "fact-checked" by the media only to reverse their position months later after WHO put out new statements. In particular, the phrase "no credible evidence" was wildly thrown around without mentioning whether there were any credible high-powered studies that had even attempted to find evidence of the phenomenon.

Uh... are you suggesting that at some not-insignificant point into the pandemic someone credible was arguing COVID was NOT airborne?