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Re: How we hack Hacker News and consistently hit the front page

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just out of curiosity, what sort of answer are you expecting? Your post reads as vaguely accusatory to me - like you're implying that messes are being left intentionally

Shills don't care about their accounts, just that they spray their message around. Just curious if the silent system works fast enough. For my curiosity, by the way, my account was rate limited. Thanks Dang.

Ah, I see, could you try asking in a more neutral fashion in the future? I've noticed the last couple years that a lot of potentially interesting or valid criticism sabotages itself with weak implications of conspiracy followed by accusations of persecution.

Re: How we hack Hacker News and consistently hit the front page

#93
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...since it hopefully makes some HN readers a bit more aware that they're being played. How are they being played? There isn't any deception here. The plan Iron Brands touts is literally "submit interesting articles first". That is what people are trying to upvote.

Sounds to me like they’re scraping the submission pool and “front running” with their “dog whistle detector” chatbot in order to get people to read their marketing paragraph tacked on to the end of the article. Providing liquidity to the news market as the quaints would say. If they were doing original research or scraping the web to bring stuff here, fine, good for them. If all they’re doing is repackaging already s…

It doesn't sound like they're front-running.

    Fetch data from Hacker News API
    Set up Google Alerts for your query
    Fetch data from Google Alerts XML
    Enrich data and store in SQLite file with a cronjob
    Send alerts with other cronjob to Twist API or Telegram API
I think the "Fetch data from Hacker News API" part is just to get keywords from popular submissions that they use to make Google Alerts for. Then when new stories about those keywords show up, they can write an article first.

Re: How we hack Hacker News and consistently hit the front page

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(Yes, I acknowledge that this stuff is hard, and that a lot of effort is going into it.) It feels like HN moderation is mostly focused on getting the comments interesting, not about getting the stories interesting. HN needs to step up its game here, IMO. There's way too much gamed crap reaching the front page. It seems especially bad during European office hours when the Californians are asleep.

> It seems especially bad during European office hours when the Californians are asleep.

Agreed, the people outside of the SV bubble submit and upvote different stuff and downvote the hell out of anybody who disputes their Eco-Marxist worldview.

Which is fine, just wish they’d be more open to debate instead of just squashing opposing points of view.

Re: How we hack Hacker News and consistently hit the front page

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post #3

Vouched for and upvoted because I think it's important for readers here to see how much effort goes into creating posts that game the system. I think it's better for these strategies to be known than hidden. It will be interesting to see how tactics like this one evolve as ChatGPT use becomes more widespread. There's a definite tension between the rule of not accusing other users of being shills and the reality that…

When you do the work and understand it, is it a hack (short cut) or just learning to deliver what the HN audience and algorithm values?

Re: How we hack Hacker News and consistently hit the front page

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post #96
post #3

Vouched for and upvoted because I think it's important for readers here to see how much effort goes into creating posts that game the system. I think it's better for these strategies to be known than hidden. It will be interesting to see how tactics like this one evolve as ChatGPT use becomes more widespread. There's a definite tension between the rule of not accusing other users of being shills and the reality that…

When you do the work and understand it, is it a hack (short cut) or just learning to deliver what the HN audience and algorithm values?

To be clear, the article was really good at outlining how to create high quality content.

Re: How we hack Hacker News and consistently hit the front page

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As an English non-native, I can't reproduce the way to create an article in 1-2 hours. Can you guys do it easily? Anyway, their strategy is one of the popular ways of content marketing. But each step has something new in detail. Good takeaways!

Yeah, they're professionals, they churn out content constantly. I'm willing to bet that you can write 500-1000 words in your native language in the same time about any topic.

You can hop onto a lot of freelance sites and find writers that will write under 1000 words for not much.

Re: How we hack Hacker News and consistently hit the front page

#100

Ok so, different take - if this what people call "gaming the system" I'm all for it. All this article says is that hackernews likes interesting, informative posts that actually tell a real story. And I for one am here for that all day. So yes, everyone take this strategy and make great content.

In the process of gaming the system, they gamed themselves.
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