Sounds like Altman used his personal relationship with Microsoft CEO to do this meaningless PR stunt, so he can more easily pursaude stupid money to actually invest in this.
What the hell is this cynicism? Seems completely inappropriate. Helion isn’t vaporware.
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#92HN, what the heck has happened to you? What is with all of these cynical comments? Helion is an awesome company, their technology is real, and this is cool. >oh no this might not work! Do you guys not understand that you’re posting on the forum of a venture capital firm/startup accelerator?
However when it comes to startups dealing with biology or physics you’re literally battling the laws of nature. You can’t just hustle out of it. I’ve been laughing at the type of biotech companies that get funded by SV (nano diamonds for cancer detection? Gut Micro biome sequencing?) and it’s looking like similar story with fusion.
In this case if you want real reasons why Helion looks suspect check out this good summary of all the issues with their approach and promise: https://youtu.be/3vUPhsFoniw
I won’t get my life against someone figuring out fusion in the next two decades but I wouldn’t bet money towards it either.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Decades of tons of things turning out to be a pile of lies and fraud.
Is that true? Seems like this summer I’m driving my Tesla to watch a Starship launch and using my starlink for internet access along the way. Meanwhile I’m using GitHub copilot to help me write code to uses some of openAIs products in my existing SaaS offering. There is a constant stream of waymos driving past my house (with nobody in them) and I’m playing Skyrim in VR. What technology are you talking about that didn…
This general skepticism leads to younger generation to be more cynical, especially when things that have been promised just don’t work out. I can’t really support it with any reliable data, as I mentioned, could just be my circles and nobody else.
Hopefully fusion will work out though! That I’m looking forward to.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Decades of tons of things turning out to be a pile of lies and fraud.
Is that true? Seems like this summer I’m driving my Tesla to watch a Starship launch and using my starlink for internet access along the way. Meanwhile I’m using GitHub copilot to help me write code to uses some of openAIs products in my existing SaaS offering. There is a constant stream of waymos driving past my house (with nobody in them) and I’m playing Skyrim in VR. What technology are you talking about that didn…
Tesla did not invent the e-car nor did SpaceX have the idea to go to space. Maybe it's just people being fed up with glossy techbro marketing whilst being fired because of "past overhiring"?
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#95HN, what the heck has happened to you? What is with all of these cynical comments? Helion is an awesome company, their technology is real, and this is cool. >oh no this might not work! Do you guys not understand that you’re posting on the forum of a venture capital firm/startup accelerator?
8 years ago, HN was a place full of optimism and excitement. I've noticed a marked increase in cynicism in this place. Like most of the world, it suffers from extreme tribalism and group think. I miss the former positive HN. And the positive world. sigh
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
The cynicism for me at least is a result of reality actually getting markedly worse (at least in the USA) over the last 10 years. However, none of that has anything to do with fusion tech, so I remain hopeful about that!
It's admittedly a 12 year old YouTube, but I always liked watching this when I was feeling especially cynical about the overall trajectory of the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Decades of tons of things turning out to be a pile of lies and fraud.
Is that true? Seems like this summer I’m driving my Tesla to watch a Starship launch and using my starlink for internet access along the way. Meanwhile I’m using GitHub copilot to help me write code to uses some of openAIs products in my existing SaaS offering. There is a constant stream of waymos driving past my house (with nobody in them) and I’m playing Skyrim in VR. What technology are you talking about that didn…
Re: Helion’s fusion power purchase agreement with Microsoft
#98HN, what the heck has happened to you? What is with all of these cynical comments? Helion is an awesome company, their technology is real, and this is cool. >oh no this might not work! Do you guys not understand that you’re posting on the forum of a venture capital firm/startup accelerator?
8 years ago, HN was a place full of optimism and excitement. I've noticed a marked increase in cynicism in this place. Like most of the world, it suffers from extreme tribalism and group think. I miss the former positive HN. And the positive world. sigh
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#99Anyone know if their machine config can scale to do hydrogen-boron fusion at a later stage?
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
While you’re probably right about GP’s cynical tone, this announcement does seem fairly meaningless. Does Helion have a working prototype that can be reasonably moved into production? Or is that still years away?
Their sixth reactor achieved 100M degree temps, ran for 16 months under vacuum, did thousands of fusion shots, and demonstrated D-He3 fusion. Their seventh will start up in 2024, and is supposed to demonstrate net electricity from D-He3. Their eighth is supposed to be the commercial reactor. If they don't achieve that, they will have to pay penalties to Microsoft.
https://www.llnl.gov/news/lawrence-livermore-national-labora...