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Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#91
post #57

Thankfully git is a distributed version control system, so such outages are not of major concern.

You're kidding right? People / companies rely on git being available for deployments, builds, config changes, developer workflow etc

Youa are confusing git and github.

Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#92
post #82

Once again another GitHub incident and 4 days later before the last one [0], GitHub Actions goes down. You are better off self-hosting at this point, rather than centralizing everything to GitHub [1] as it is just chronically unreliable for years ever since the Microsoft acquisition. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35817998 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867803

> You are better off self-hosting at this point

For medium/large companies, I fully agree. For smaller projects, specifically open source projects, I'd look at something like https://codeberg.org/

Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#93
I'm the lone person at my team that still believes in keeping most of our stuff local, with online versions as primarily backup.

Every time some global service goes down, or internal internet/intranet goes down, there is a security breach, or a WFH person has a power outage I'm reminded I'm right.

I'm no luddite, these services make you dependent on them. The worst thing I'm dependent on here is a bad computer. We have backups and keep our files on our network, so it seems fine. We are slowly moving to an online system, and I'm constantly reminded all the problems shifting online.

Meanwhile, if I had a linux server, we would be in control of our own destiny.

Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#94
post #6

Again?

Yes. Once again. [0]

Due to GitHub's chronic unreliability, it is guaranteed to continue happening every month.

Looks like avoiding to 'centralize everything to GitHub' has aged very well [1] and at this point you would get better uptime with self-hosting instead of using GitHub.

Just ask many open source organizations like RedoxOS, ReactOS, wireguard, GNOME, KDE, etc.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35817662

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867803

Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#95
post #46
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point isn't that GitLab has more, the point is that running these things at global scale is pretty complicated, and everyone has problems. "Just switch to GitLab" is pithy but isn't in itself an actual solution.

You can self-host GitLab and have few, if any, incidents that get resolved very quickly. Worked for a company that had no incidents that I observed in ~3 years, now work at a company that had ~2 incidents in 1.5 years.

You can self-host GitHub Enterprise too.

Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#96
post #3

Does GitHub provide uptime stats? Seems very unreliable recently.

About 10 years ago someone said we should move to self hosting because bitbucket who we used were unreliable. I looked at the status page and say 2 hours of downtime over 3-months, while we have 3-4 days of downtime on our self hosted jenkins during the same time. I always think of that when I see people complain about services being unreliable. Often we see one or two problems in short span and forget about the mont…

> while we have 3-4 days of downtime on our self hosted jenkins during the same time

Wow. This sounds like a broken organization?

Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#97
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

gitlab.com or self-hosted?

gitlab.com is implied since it happening on a self-hosted instance would have nothing to do with gitlab as a service (they can't be responsible for your on-site backups). > Trying to restore the replication process, an engineer proceeds to wipe the PostgreSQL database directory, errantly thinking they were doing so on the secondary. Unfortunately this process was executed on the primary instead. The engineer terminat…

Ah I see the link. I'd caution that many people choose between github.com, gitlab.com, and gitlab self-hosted. The reliability of self-hosted gitlab is meaningful, especially when operated competently. People need to know if there are safeguards or foot guns. Backups alone can't prevent data loss.

Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#98
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enterprise says I have to use this unreliable garbage.

Yep. We could self host. But it's forbidden.

We migrated recently. On prem was never down, but since moving to GitHub were more down than up.

Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#99

I'm the lone person at my team that still believes in keeping most of our stuff local, with online versions as primarily backup. Every time some global service goes down, or internal internet/intranet goes down, there is a security breach, or a WFH person has a power outage I'm reminded I'm right. I'm no luddite, these services make you dependent on them. The worst thing I'm dependent on here is a bad computer. We ha…

I don't know about you, but the stuff I self-manage usually has worse uptime than SaaS products

Re: GitHub incident: ongoing issues with Actions, Issues and other Git operations

#100
post #47

I debugged for one min at 11:59 trying to push, and then my eat-lunch notification came in at 12:00 and I opened hackernews with a tuna sandwich and this is super helpful because it means I wont need to debug it locally for 10 mins before figuring out Github is down. Edit - Just want to clarify when I say "opened hackernews with a tuna sandwich" I want to clear up that I did indeed full on mash the keyboard letters w…

This is why I don't touch other people's keyboards.

Yeah, this is a good argument for licking them instead.
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