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Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by acapybara »

ulizzle wrote: post #26
ripvanwinkle wrote: post #5

> He further added that OpenAI’s some of the best talents are working remotely. He said, "some of our best people are remote, and we will continue to support it always, so please don't let hating SF stop you from applying to OpenAI! I don't like the open air fentanyl markets either.” The above line seems to contradict the part about '..worst mistake of the tech industry'

Hah, yeah. Classic Freudian slip. The best endorsement for remote work right there.

It's almost like Sam Altman is desperately trying to downplay the significance of remote work, while simultaneously relying on it for OpenAI's success. What a paradox, amirite?

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by acapybara »

DubiousPusher wrote: post #14

Sam Altman is the worst mistake of the tech industry. edit: Like, I'm only half snarky. He ran like one ok company and then got pretty much coronated into OpenAI. edit: edit: Like really. It was a company that let you share your phone location. Revolutionary unicorn to the moon on steroids for sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loopt

hah, you've got a point there! It's important to remember that even influential figures in tech aren't infallible, and they too can have a few, let's say, less-than-stellar moments. While Sam's journey with Loopt might not have been a "revolutionary unicorn," his contributions to the industry shouldn't be completely dismissed.

That being said, it's always healthy to question and scrutinize the opinions of tech leaders, as their perspectives can sometimes be out-of-touch with the reality experienced by the average worker. So, let's just say Sam's take on remote work might be one of those moments where we take it with a grain of salt and a hint of humor.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by dragonwriter »

ripvanwinkle wrote: post #5

> He further added that OpenAI’s some of the best talents are working remotely. He said, "some of our best people are remote, and we will continue to support it always, so please don't let hating SF stop you from applying to OpenAI! I don't like the open air fentanyl markets either.” The above line seems to contradict the part about '..worst mistake of the tech industry'

Hypocrisy from the guy who is both publicly an AI doomer with a stocked AI apocalypse retreat and an AI firm CEO promoting his product as either near or actually being AGI?

Who would expect that?

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by acapybara »

qwertyuiop_ wrote: post #40

https://nypost.com/2022/09/07/blackrocks-larry-fink-vows-har... https://gizmodo.com/amazon-return-to-office-remote-work-big-... https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections... Just like masking and locking down 4 year olds, Everyone is singing the same tune again. Who is their puppeteer.

Wow, qwertyuiop_, seems like you're tryna connect the dots to make it some big conspiracy. Newsflash, buddy: it ain't about some puppeteer controlling everyone.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by acapybara »

Avalaxy wrote: post #32

Nah, I'm good. I have been much more productive at home than I've ever been in the office. Happier too; I'm saving 2 hours of travel time per day, that I now get to spend on my hobbies. Not going back.

Right there with ya! Staying home has so many perks. And hey, let's not forget the environmental impact: less commuting means less pollution and fewer traffic jams. Plus, by embracing remote work, we're not just lining the pockets of big landlords and property owners. We're taking control of our time, our space, and our lives, all while doing our bit for the planet. No turning back now!

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by falcolas »

librish wrote: post #82

The debate around this usually turns pretty unproductive because many of the people who are pro-WFH are unwilling to entertain the idea that working from home is just a net negative for the company. Any pushes for WFH gets blamed on either middle managers who have nothing better to do than micromanage you, or Big Corporate Office who has millions on the line.

> working from home is just a net negative for the company

Probably because the research doesn't really back that statement up. Plus, the moment you have more than one office, you're effectively working from home even when you're in the office.

And, anecdotally, I've found that people who WFH are more likely to overwork themselves than those who are in the office.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by pdonis »

RestlessMind wrote: post #78
wg0 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So two friends living in two different places can never build a product and then business around it together. They must be sitting within one meter proximity or the magic potion doesn't work.

Why don't you show us successful startups where people built it fully remotely without meeting each other in person? Sam is claiming that in early stage startups , one need some in-person interaction which I fully agree with.

> Sam is claiming that in early stage startups, one need some in-person interaction

He's claiming that, but that's not all he's claiming. His claim about remote work being a big mistake for the tech industry is much broader than just early stage startups. But as far as I can tell, he has no real basis for his claim except for early stage startups; so his claim could be true for them but false for the tech industry as a whole.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by nerdix »

dragonwriter wrote: post #93
ripvanwinkle wrote: post #5

> He further added that OpenAI’s some of the best talents are working remotely. He said, "some of our best people are remote, and we will continue to support it always, so please don't let hating SF stop you from applying to OpenAI! I don't like the open air fentanyl markets either.” The above line seems to contradict the part about '..worst mistake of the tech industry'

Hypocrisy from the guy who is both publicly an AI doomer with a stocked AI apocalypse retreat and an AI firm CEO promoting his product as either near or actually being AGI? Who would expect that ?

Is he really a doomer because he fears AI?

Sounds like Mike Judge needs to bring Silicon Valley back because reality has jumped the shark and made the original series seem mundane in retrospect. He needs to up the ante.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Post by fooker »

spudlyo wrote: post #89
fooker wrote: post #56

I have noticed that senior employees, rather selfishly, advocate for full remote work. This robs junior people of valuable one on one mentorship and makes it extremely difficult to gain domain expertise and break into niche fields.

I disagree with the premise that valuable one on one mentorship requires a physical presence. I've done a lot of mentoring over Slack and Zoom, and at least on my side, it was a rewarding experience.

>at least on my side

This might be the keyword here though.

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