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ChatGPT for Hardware Design

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Re: ChatGPT for Hardware Design

#93
Github auth seems broken for me on chrome mac, anyone else ? Here's the error on the login page : You are already signed in, please try signing out and signing in again, or contact us for help. Sometimes I get sent to a profile page, but trying to create a project sends me back to the login page.

Re: ChatGPT for Hardware Design

#94

Founder here: Incredibly stoked to announce this today! This is a dream a long time in the making. When we first thought of rebuilding the hardware design tooling stack from scratch, AI driven design seemed like the dream at the end of the tunnel...only 3+ years later we are here Given the open ended nature of AI Expert agents we are launching a community preview. We are committed to keep building http://flux.ai in t…

when I'm building circuits, usually I know what I want to design on a high level, but once it comes time to turn the schematic into a BOM, I get bogged down in minute differences between similar components

e.g. most recently, I needed a boost converter with at least 300mA sustained I at 3.3V coming from the lowest V source possible (alkaline battery powered gadget) After an hour or so of searching I had to choose between TLV61220 and TPS61021A . Maybe there is a better third chip? At this point I ran out of time to research and just figured this the TPS61021A would do.

Digikey/Mouser/etc have parametric filtering (when it works), but optimization among three variables is not the strong suit there, especially when you have, say, an 8mm square to fill and cost is a factor (and availability/flexibility between footprints)

I would love to use this as a fair recommendation engine (that isn't sponsored by TI, skewing all results towards their products) where I can give it my circuit's minimum/recommended/maximum parameters and have it suggest applicable parts, or even take my finished designs and suggest cheaper alternatives for parts that match the design's footprints but have lower capabilities, if that's all my circuit needed in the first place.

(just threw my query into chatgpt and it suggested https://www.ti.com/product/TPS61221) not bad.

Re: ChatGPT for Hardware Design

#95

PCB Designer on the team: Holy cow this is awesome! The integration of project context with an LLM enabled more than the sum of its parts when it comes to information access. When designing circuits for fast iterations, you're constantly managing risk and time expenditure; this leads to copying a lot of "flight heritage" circuits so to speak. With the LLM, I'm able to get highly condensed starting points for better c…

I have no idea what you're talking about, but my experience 100% mirrors yours in most cases as a programmer.

GPT-4 produces a lot of my code now.

I'm leap-frogging my team a bit in productivity because they still don't like it, but it's so close to being undeniable.

Re: ChatGPT for Hardware Design

#96
I don't mean to sound like a real downer: but I don't see this tool "getting good" for the simple reason of: what are you training it with?

I thought ML needs huge datasets? This is great for GitHub's Copilot as there is plenty of high quality, production, open source code they've used without authorisation from the creators (and possibly proprietary code).

But this dataset just doesn't exist for hardware development on the internet. Almost everything on the net is hobbyist stuff. Great for hand building 10 on a desk but absolute rubbish for a (even horribly) manufacturable and COMPLIANT product.

Further: an anecdotal, but to me very telling, one liner from the video "the component is "not use for new designs" but we can ignore that because there's 260,000 of them". I have personally sniped larger quantities than that from digikey. "Not for new design" means you don't use it in a new design. PERIOD. And ironically, for something like a Murata cap, they've probably literally changed one letter in the PN because they've made a tiny process or recepie change and its more a "move everyone to the new iteration" process.

I do sincerely wish them success and maybe they can carved out a small bit of the hobbyist market but that's probably it.

Re: ChatGPT for Hardware Design

#97

I don't mean to sound like a real downer: but I don't see this tool "getting good" for the simple reason of: what are you training it with? I thought ML needs huge datasets? This is great for GitHub's Copilot as there is plenty of high quality, production , open source code they've used without authorisation from the creators (and possibly proprietary code). But this dataset just doesn't exist for hardware developmen…

That's generally true for ChatGPT generating code as well. Nevertheless, I've been able to ask it to solve some semi complicated coding problems, along with unit tests. The code that it generated was structurally better than a lot of junior to mid level engineers.

It also made some similar mistakes to what you describe, with silly things like the wrong parameter names. It still saved a lot of typing compared to doing it all manually. It didn't take long to fix it either, it just required fairly decent software engineering skills.

How is this relevant to circuit design? Well, in the same way it could potentially be an effort amplifier for people who already thoroughly know what they are doing.

AI is on the verge of becoming a really powerful lever.

Re: ChatGPT for Hardware Design

#98
We are witnessing the arrival of the technological singularity in slow motion.

It is becoming possible for AI systems to rapidly design hardware and software systems from the requirements of individuals who do not necessarily understand the subject matter.

I give tech 10 years before most of it is accomplished by AI and most people in tech will be forced out. Like DC elevators, some will remain, but not like it was.

Re: ChatGPT for Hardware Design

#99

We are witnessing the arrival of the technological singularity in slow motion. It is becoming possible for AI systems to rapidly design hardware and software systems from the requirements of individuals who do not necessarily understand the subject matter. I give tech 10 years before most of it is accomplished by AI and most people in tech will be forced out. Like DC elevators, some will remain, but not like it was.

i give AI at least another 500 years until the I in AI actually stands for intelligence.

See what I did there? Everyone can make outrageous claims without backing them up whatsoever :)

Re: ChatGPT for Hardware Design

#100
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simply via commercial use, Github could choose to assert a common-law trademark on 'Copilot' within their field-of-use. But also, they've registered "Github Copilot" at the USPTO: https://trademarks.justia.com/974/60/github-97460083.html

Presumedly they would likewise register "Flux Copilot"?

Do you think I could offer a custom-built Windows PC under the registered trademark "Gordon's Macintosh"?
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