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Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by donkeyd »

digdigdag wrote: post #79

Beyond the serious dependability questions Google raises, I feel bad for the millions of units of OnHub, Nest, Stadia, and other hardware that are still perfectly functional, but rendered obsolete because of what amounts to high level, corporate financial decisions. Any company engaging in mass market IoT sales should be compelled, for the sake of consumer confidence and protection, of an "exit plan" to allow fully l…

> I feel bad for the millions of units of [...] Stadia

In their defense, Stadia consisted of a ChromeCast and a controller which are both still useful.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by dvh »

FinnKuhn wrote: post #68
gondaloof wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could say the same about Google Earth on mobile. Do you need a separate app? I’m honestly surprised it still exists.

wait, how is this comment already in the article?

https://youtu.be/5drjr9PmTMA

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by [deleted] »

pqb wrote: post #89
remirk wrote: post #29

The dedicated Streetview app was finally killed because streetview is already integrated in regular google maps. To me, that seems like a good reason to discontinue the dedicated app. I don't get the reasoning behind this article. Half of this list is side projects which didn't work out, which is understandable to a certain degree. The article feels like blogspam riding on the hypetrain of people disliking when googl…

> As [this]( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35553634 ) comment on HN pointed out, this was a good move by Google. You can feel fulfilled as an HN user. Your comment was cited (linked) in the article. Note: I am not an author of the article :)

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Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by belter »

LeBit wrote: post #34
onion2k wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. I think the 'problem' is that reputation damage doesn't really impact Google's revenue. They get the overwhelming majority of their money from publishing adverts, with a significant amount on their own properties (search and YouTube). It really doesn't matter if a bunch of gamers decide Stadia screwe…

Google Search is in great perils because of ChatGPT.

I bet OpenAI is losing money on every prompt interaction you do. Estimates of the computational power required and the number of users, are that if was not for Microsoft cash injection it would be bankrupt by now.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by rsynnott »

ed_mercer wrote: post #28

Why does Google get grilled so badly for pulling products? Don’t other companies do the exact same thing, and isn’t it their full right to abandon projects when it no longer makes sense?

Some of this stuff is normal. Some, though… the OnHub thing in particular should serve as a warning never to buy hardware from Google, I think.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by nkrisc »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #24

The list is a bit dishonest. Google Code Jam was not a product, and it was an event that was a net loss in terms of revenue, which is hard to justify maintaining when you are cutting thousands of jobs. Google Street View is part of Google Maps, the post even says so. Google OnHub is a one time hardware product. Nobody is blaming Nintendo for killing the Gameboy Color when it stopped producing it. I don't see how any…

> Google OnHub is a one time hardware product. Nobody is blaming Nintendo for killing the Gameboy Color when it stopped producing it.

Did your Gameboy Color stop working when Nintendo decided to stop producing it?

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by ryanbrunner »

gondaloof wrote: post #56
remirk wrote: post #29

The dedicated Streetview app was finally killed because streetview is already integrated in regular google maps. To me, that seems like a good reason to discontinue the dedicated app. I don't get the reasoning behind this article. Half of this list is side projects which didn't work out, which is understandable to a certain degree. The article feels like blogspam riding on the hypetrain of people disliking when googl…

You could say the same about Google Earth on mobile. Do you need a separate app? I’m honestly surprised it still exists.

Google Earth presents the same data in a very different way - Google Maps is mostly about navigation and discovering businesses and other locations in an area, Google Earth is more about exploration and discovering cool places. Sort of like how paper maps and atlases both had reasons to exist.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

remirk wrote: post #29

The dedicated Streetview app was finally killed because streetview is already integrated in regular google maps. To me, that seems like a good reason to discontinue the dedicated app. I don't get the reasoning behind this article. Half of this list is side projects which didn't work out, which is understandable to a certain degree. The article feels like blogspam riding on the hypetrain of people disliking when googl…

> Half of this list is side projects which didn't work out, which is understandable to a certain degree

What happens to the people who bet on them? Do they even have a point of contact if e.g. an integration breaks? That’s the point. They’re half-baked products being put out and pulled with no care in the world. That’s the brand.

Which means when a Stadia comes out, a product that could have worked if people trusted it, nobody budges. Because half the crap Google ships are “side projects which didn’t work out,” a list which apparently now includes its cloud.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by iLoveOncall »

nkrisc wrote: post #96
iLoveOncall wrote: post #24

The list is a bit dishonest. Google Code Jam was not a product, and it was an event that was a net loss in terms of revenue, which is hard to justify maintaining when you are cutting thousands of jobs. Google Street View is part of Google Maps, the post even says so. Google OnHub is a one time hardware product. Nobody is blaming Nintendo for killing the Gameboy Color when it stopped producing it. I don't see how any…

> Google OnHub is a one time hardware product. Nobody is blaming Nintendo for killing the Gameboy Color when it stopped producing it. Did your Gameboy Color stop working when Nintendo decided to stop producing it?

Partially. Once the battery in the cartridges expires you cannot save your progress anymore, essentially killing most of the product.

8 years of support for their router doesn't seem bad at all.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by londons_explore »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #98
remirk wrote: post #29

The dedicated Streetview app was finally killed because streetview is already integrated in regular google maps. To me, that seems like a good reason to discontinue the dedicated app. I don't get the reasoning behind this article. Half of this list is side projects which didn't work out, which is understandable to a certain degree. The article feels like blogspam riding on the hypetrain of people disliking when googl…

> Half of this list is side projects which didn't work out, which is understandable to a certain degree What happens to the people who bet on them? Do they even have a point of contact if e.g. an integration breaks? That’s the point. They’re half-baked products being put out and pulled with no care in the world. That’s the brand. Which means when a Stadia comes out, a product that could have worked if people trusted…

They really just need clear branding between "This is a side project, we might take it away with just a months notice" and "This is a product we will give you many years notice and a migration path if we decide to get rid of it".

I think they should label everything in the former category "experimental". Put the label right in the logo so it is really obvious.

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