There used to be a concern that we'd be bored out of our minds once the machines do all the work. Instead, we'll all be busy running the worlds we've created, and we'll complain that we wish we had more time for ourselves, like the good old pre-LLM days.
Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages
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#92This has to be one of hte most fascinating discussions i've seen on HN. Imagine the FBI training an AI on all the information they have about a suspect. Files and files of statements, social media history, phone taps, etc and then interrogating the AI to get enough information to convince a judge to issue a warrant.
idk the LLMs being turned loose and the possibilities feels different than past major shifts in tech. (i've been around a while)
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#93While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…
I don't think Google would want the PR hit for doing such things. I suspect that they even have hang-ups about training their general-purpose AIs on your private data, because they might accidentally leak some of it. A lot of their business exists because people trust them to keep your data safe (even from their internal teams), and they would lose a lot of business if anyone discovered otherwise.
I think it will be a wild couple of years but there are lots of things that are off-limits.
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#94While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…
And yet, every time these fears are brought up with AI people, they are dismissed as Luddite hyperbole. “We’re saving the world” they say. With zero regard for second order effects, or with arrogant dismissal of those effects as worth it for the first order gains. Disgusting to watch unfold.
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#95This has to be one of hte most fascinating discussions i've seen on HN. Imagine the FBI training an AI on all the information they have about a suspect. Files and files of statements, social media history, phone taps, etc and then interrogating the AI to get enough information to convince a judge to issue a warrant. idk the LLMs being turned loose and the possibilities feels different than past major shifts in tech.…
That seems less efficient than just searching through the contents without training an LLM to adopt the persona of the suspect. You'd have to double check everything they say, because obviously any of it can be false. So at best it's pointing you to the right direction, but realistically not.
Might be a good lead generation if the FBI is completely stumped I guess? Or they're just bored at work?
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#96While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…
We ended feudalism only to get back to a stronger version of it powered by tech
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#97I’ve read plenty about the potential catastrophe of AI putting people out of work or becoming uncontrollable in some grand sci-fi way, but uses like this make me the most concerned for the near-mid term.
Broadly I think the internet, social media, and to some degree the physical arrangement of suburban/car dependent living has had a negative impact on genuine human connection. While the ability of people to interact has increased exponentially, something is missing from those interactions, and we seem to have built societies where people have more material wealth than ever before, but lack the community, friendships, and shared experience that help us find meaning and fulfillment in life. A world where we accelerate this by replacing human connection with machines does not look good to me.
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#98Things only hackernews may entail or wish for
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#99how do you build the knowledge and intuition around how to do this?
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#100This is awesome, clear and concise explanation. I was talking to my wife and debating whether I should build a model of each of us and store it somewhere in case something tragic happens to either of us. But we decided not to because something about it felt wrong but maybe I’ll make it just in case I regret not doing later on.
I really don't understand this sort of thing at all. Even a hypothetical distant future AI that had a human level of sentience and intelligence and could perfectly emulate you in every way still would not be you (even if it could hypothetically be indistinguishable from you in communication), and it's especially odd now with the crude simulacrum it would provide. If you're gone, you're gone. Some model of your brain…
There was an episode of the old 80's TV show "Max Headroom" which explored the idea that a new age church was taking advantage of people by providing kiosks, for a price, that contained a crude digital simulation of their lost loved ones. The show came down pretty much on the side of "it's just creepy, false hope".