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CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation

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Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Human health is a complicated thing. Talk to people all day about symptoms they're experiencing and you can develop psychosomatic effects. Especially if you're over-worked and that kind of censusing isn't your day-to-day. Not to say nothing happened to them. Just that medical causality is really complicated.

The CDC is full of shit. It’s not complicated.

What does the CDC have to gain by downplaying the seriousness of this disaster?

Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation

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That whole disaster was terribly handled. From The sec of transportation dragging his feel by weeks, to the president being dismissive and the train company saying no big deal... go back home, it's safe! I hope Erin can help to bring the attention and justice this disaster deserves. At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina.

It's deeply concerning to me that democratic party insiders are still acting like Pete Buttigieg could be a future presidential nominee after his horrible handling of this disaster.

Further horrifying to think that some of these people may rationalize minimizing and hiding evidence of harm from this disaster because they believe it would serve their political goals.

Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation

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I'm really worried about the effects on the food supply chain. The plume of chemical vapors covered a significant proportion this country's breadbasket. Corn, wheat and soybean fields got sprinkled with carcinogens, they will be harvested, turned into flours and processed derivatives, and could end up in practically any processed food on grocery store shelves. Does anyone have a reassuring reason why I shouldn't be w…

Relax, unless the grains were grown next door and you got that batch of corn or flour you'll be fine. Otherwise it's going to be very diluted.

There are tons of carcinogens around, East Palestine is the least of your worries unless you live near there.

(I have zero scientific background)

Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation

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This sounds like CDC workers will have a big lawsuit against the CDC. Their employment contract can't possibly be so bullet proof as to fully waive their right to this? They should have sufficient protective equipment when investigating these types of disasters.

OSHA would have something to say about it, but the Executive Branch would like to keep a muzzle on them to avoid more fallout next election.

Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation

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I'm really worried about the effects on the food supply chain. The plume of chemical vapors covered a significant proportion this country's breadbasket. Corn, wheat and soybean fields got sprinkled with carcinogens, they will be harvested, turned into flours and processed derivatives, and could end up in practically any processed food on grocery store shelves. Does anyone have a reassuring reason why I shouldn't be w…

This is absolutely a phenomenal point. I would be interested to know how one could test their own food and water at their house for a reasonable price. I can't imagine that any regulation would actually catch this. Water is a maybe (mostly they're concerned with other types of contaminates), but food is a concern for sure.

Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The CDC is full of shit. It’s not complicated.

What does the CDC have to gain by downplaying the seriousness of this disaster?

> What does the CDC have to gain by downplaying the seriousness of this disaster?

Don't you remember what happened to 9/11 workers who then died of specific forms of cancer? The US government fully knew that working there was dangerous for their health due to the toxic dust.

What executive working at the CDC now will still be there in 15 years? That won't be their problem...

Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Truly the mind and body are mysterious things. For example, if you walk around in an area where toxic chemicals are burning you can also feel ill. We have no way of knowing what the causes are.

But toxic chemicals weren't burning at the time they walked around, right?

Right, just the toxic combustion byproducts.

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It’s possible there is a benign explanation (spring is allergy season after all), but it’s insane that the government hasn’t been erring in the side of caution throughout this incident.

Not sure whether I'd feel better if the people running our government were greedy psychopaths or just horribly incompetent.

How about both?

Re: CDC team studying East Palestine train derailment fell ill during investigation

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post #92
post #3

That whole disaster was terribly handled. From The sec of transportation dragging his feel by weeks, to the president being dismissive and the train company saying no big deal... go back home, it's safe! I hope Erin can help to bring the attention and justice this disaster deserves. At least GWB, though a contemptible fellow otherwise, took his frat attitude up in a chopper to survey Katrina.

It's deeply concerning to me that democratic party insiders are still acting like Pete Buttigieg could be a future presidential nominee after his horrible handling of this disaster. Further horrifying to think that some of these people may rationalize minimizing and hiding evidence of harm from this disaster because they believe it would serve their political goals.

I am fairly certain most mainstream Americans of any political leaning rolls their eyes when Pete makes a statement on TV. He has had quite the number of mishaps to be commenting on, and I think people are beginning to expect that there will be more under his watch.
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